10-29-2013, 02:54 AM
Quote: ?Behold the hour comes and now it has come, when you will be scattered everyone to his place and you will leave me alone, and I shall not be alone because The Father is with me.? John 16:32 -Bauscher
I don't want to be argumentative with this, Distazo, just to discuss it...and it looks to me that this is not an all or nothing statement there in the verse, because not all of them left Him completely alone during that time, as John the Apostle was at the Cross with Jesus until He died.
Again, I don't say that The Father "forsook" Him, as in "ditched" Him or "abandoned" Him, or "rejected" Him...NOT IN ANY WAY.
But, if we take Hebrews 2:9 into consideration, it could mean that The Father separated from Jesus in some way, right before He tasted death. The Father may very well have still been "with" Jesus, yet not united "with" or "In" Jesus at that moment just before He tasted death. We believe that His humanity and His Divinity are in a close union, the Greek term in English is "Hypostatic Union", of His Divine and Human natures/substances/essences... and if this union was broken at that moment, it could explain what took place.
But of course we won't know for certain either way, until He tells us what exactly happened there. Either way, I know it was not a rejection of His Son of any kind, for He was doing The Father's will the whole time.
In any case, Distazo, what do you say Hebrews 2:9 is speaking of then, when it says "...for, apart from Alaha, for every man, He tasted death."
--> "Apart from"
How so???
Blessings,
Chuck