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Hardcopies ready! Thankyou to all who helped.
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Hi Andrej,

I feel compelled only to address your first and last points. All you said in the middle highlighted your lack of knowledge on the early texts and beliefs of the early Christians, and your lack of knowledge even of your own bible. To say that my bit about morality sounds more like I?m criticising Islam rather than the OT, highlights your ignorance and your bigotry. I always cringe when Christians criticise Islam over the often bloodthirsty Quran; the OT is as bad or worse. You also highlighted your lack of understanding of economics. As if 2 million people (forming a massive part of the work force) leaving a country of 6 million wouldn't be noticed...

You also constantly say "In my opinion" and "I don?t know about?" If there's so much you don't KNOW about your Bible, about the early churches, about Jewish archaeology... Don't you think you should get out there and do some research before stating your certainty that your god/religion/holy book is true??? That's what I would expect of someone before they use their beliefs to kill others, convert them, change their laws etc.

Your first point: You stated that atheists have a BELIEF that there is no deity. That is not what atheism is. You have no right to tell millions of people what they believe or don?t believe. You have also put words in my mouth, as I do not make this claim. I have a position of intellectual honesty. I let believers in all of the millions of potential gods make their case. As I haven?t seen any convincing evidence, I see no reason to reject the null hypothesis. I will stick to the default position, which is a total LACK of belief in any god. Thus, the burden of proof lies with believers.

Your last point: You mentioned that personal proof is real. You?ve just demonstrated why we cannot have a serious academic discussion. I'll leave it to you to argue with the Muslim, the Jew, the Zeusist, and the many many different kinds of Christians, over whose personal proof is "more real" <!-- sCool --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/cool1.gif" alt="Cool" title="Cool" /><!-- sCool -->

And I won?t resort to cheap shots like ?my own personal proof from my pantheistic god tells me you?re wrong.? <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: -->

I?m impressed that you have studied a bit. Most Christians are happy just to hear carefully selected snippets from the Bible every Sunday. I encourage you to keep studying. And keep asking questions.

Best Regards,

Raphael

p.s. To aid in your studies, here is a selected bibliography for iGod. The books here are fairly accessible. http://www.igodbook.com/bibliography.htm
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Re: Hardcopies ready! Thankyou to all who helped. - by peshitta_enthusiast - 01-15-2011, 11:33 PM

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