Young Earth or Old Earth?

[Thirdwoe]

I won't argue about what the light was.

Good, I won???t argue about it either???. lets allow the Scriptures to interpret themselves to our minds through the Holy Spirit who leads us into all Truth???.

We know God said, "Let there be light, and there was light. And God separated the light from the darkness, and God called the light Day and the darkness He called Night." I don't believe God created His Son or begot Him on the first day. I don't think you do either, so you should clarify your last statement, which sounds like you are saying Jesus is God's creation Whom He made on day one.

Christ, the manifestation of God the Father was brought forth from The Father before the foundations of the Earth were laid???. And through Him and in Him God the Father created the Heaven and the Earth in the beginning??? He is Light from Light and God from God???.

He is spoken of here in a wonderful way???

"Yahweh brought Me forth as the first of His works, before His deeds of old; I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began.

When there were no oceans, I was given birth, when there were no springs abounding with water; before the mountains were settled in place, before the hills, I was given birth, before He made the Earth or its fields or any of the dust of the world.

I was there when He set the Heavens in place, when He marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, when He established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep, when He gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep His command, and when He marked out the foundations of the Earth.

Then I was the craftsman at His side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in His presence, rejoicing in His whole world and delighting in mankind." Proverbs 8:22-31


Christ is the manifestation of both the Wisdom and Power of God.

??????Christ The Power of God, and The Wisdom of God.??? 1 Corinthians 1:24


Who is speaking here in this verse below?

???Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: ?????? Matt 23:34

It was The Wisdom of God speaking???.

"For this reason also The Wisdom of God said, 'I will send to them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and some they will persecute, Luke 11:49

"God is Light", wrote John. That is not to say that the universe is filled with blinding physical light. The light God created was separated from the darkness, so the light created on day one was not omnipresent; otherwise it would have shone everywhere at all times and there would have been no darkness.

When God wills???. He manifests Himself as physical Light and that Light shines on the Earth???. It does not say that God created Light on the first day???. God said: Hayah Owr! -Light be! This statement is more along the lines of a command for Light to come forth and appear upon the scene???

But this is not the subject of our original discussion. Do you see the reasonableness of 6 24-hour days of creation, and the unreasonableness of long ages for each day?

I see problems with both interpretations. Perhaps less so with the six literal 24-hour days??? God could have made everything come into existence in 144 hours if He wanted to???and that number 144 pops up other places in the Scriptures in neat ways???so it very well could be the case. Though it could have been otherwise???

What I have been exploring more deeply here is that it seems to state that the Heaven and the Earth were Created ???In the beginning??? and that they were created unfurnished???. it was dark in the universe, and the Earth was hanging in this absence of Light darkness???no Light shinning???. The Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the watery depths???while this state existed.

And then God spoke and said: Let Light Be!

Then begins the work of fashioning and forming the Heavens and the Earth that is already created and begins the filling of the empty space and lifeless Earth that was created in the beginning???


Notice above there in the proverbs verse where it says at the start of the passage...."I was appointed from Eternity, from the Beginning, before the World began."

From Eternity, from the Beginning....before the World began.....

Consider these related verses...

And, Thou, Lord, in the Beginning hast laid the foundation of the Earth; ....Heb 1:10

In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the Beginning with God. John 1:1-2

In the Beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth. Gen 1:1


It could be that the terms "From Eternity" "from the Beginning" "In the Beginning" and "Before the World began" simply means: During Eternity, before time as we have it now on Earth started ticking off it's counting on....day one, day two, day three.....and so on.


I think your position goes like this right....that the Earth and the vacuum of space it hangs and spins in was created in about 12 hours during the evening of day one, evening starting the 24-hour day off....or do you say that they were created in an instant and lay in darkness for about that long until God said Let Light be????


-Chuck