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Young Earth or Old Earth?
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Quote:Shlama Akhi Chuck,

"I am not dogmatic about what I say."

Why not?

I could be wrong about what I am seeing in the Scriptures and because I believe I could be wrong about it I am not dogmatic about it. I am certainly dogmatic about certain doctrines in the Scriptures though.

dogmatic:
adjective:
If someone is dogmatic, they are certain that they are right and that everyone else is wrong.
(Taken from the Cambridge Online Dictionary)


Quote:The scripture plainly states the world was created in 6 days.
If the Scriptures "plainly states" this somewhere then we wouldn't be having this extended discussion. It would be completely obvious what the teaching is???. but the Scriptures are worded in such a way that seems to be pointing to something more than what we could conclude at a quick glance and not careful study???

For instance, it does not state that God "Created the world in 6 days". Perhaps someone might have made a version of the Scriptures that would say this, but I haven't seen it in the original language.

Point me to the verse or verses that says that God created the world in 6 days.



Quote:Are you ashamed to say you believe it was 6 - 24 hour days?
I am not ashamed to say that I could be wrong either way about it. If it simply declared this in the Scripture, it would be an easy thing to proclaim???. but it does not.

Quote:If God had meant thousands or millions or billions of years, He could have said so. Genesis is not poetry or parables. It is historical narrative.
It clearly states that God Created the Heaven and the Earth In the Beginning???. then it says that He Made the Heaven and the Earth in six days???

In these verses it says???

"And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it He had rested from all his work which God created and made. Genesis 2:3

The word for Created and Made are distinct words in the original language???
The word under the English word Made is Asah, which carries the meaning of ???to fashion something.
The word under the English word Created is Bara, which carries the meaning of???. to absolutely create something.

In the same verse the two words are used here, because both statements are correct???

In the beginning God created (Bara) the Heaven and the Earth???Gen 1:1 ???

And???

In six days Yahweh made (Asah) heaven and earth, Exodus 31:17

Also to point something else out:

It is written:

"These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created (Bara), in the day (Yowm) that Yahweh God made (Asah) the earth and the heavens," Genesis 2:4

If we always say that Yowm must mean a 24-hour period???then that would mean that we would have to teach that God created and made the Heaven and the Earth in a single Day/Yowm???

But here, Yowm/Day carries the meaning of an age or period of time that God took to Create and Make the Heaven and the Earth, rather than a have to be 24-hour day and night period of sun rises and sun sets???

This is a verse to answer the question where the time period referred to God's workday could have been longer than a 24-hour period of time???as we count time.


Quote:How God created is not the issue. Every detail as to how is not the issue I have been discussing. The issue is the veracity of plain scripture versus scientific theory, which contradicts scripture. You and I both believe in scripture as the word of God. We both know Genesis one is contradicted by evolutionary theory of the universe.

Since God made plants on day 3 and the sun on day four, how can we defend thousands of years or more for each day? That would mean trees and green plants without any sun for centuries. It also disregards the Hebrew usage of the word "Yom" with a number, with "evening" or "morning" as a 24-hour day in all other places where it so occurs.

I havent been espousing evolution in any way here...I do not believe or teach that theory. We are discussing the age of the Earth and how could it be older than 7000 years....I have been pointing out that the languge used seems to indicate that it could have been a longer period of time than six 24-hour days as we recon time on Earth today.

As to the plants needing the Sun to grow on the 3rd day, when the Sun wasn't there until the 4th day???and if these days are a thousand year Yowm/time period... one of God's 'Days' say???

Then as I pointed out in the last response, it says that on the 1st 'Day' God created Light???. Photosynthesis being taken care of there if need be???


Quote:I hope you are not offended by my reasonings with you.
No, I am not offended at all with your reasonings Dave???

May God bless you with His Spirit as you grow in His knowledge

Chuck
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Young Earth or Old Earth? - by rungold315 - 03-19-2008, 04:56 AM
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