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Young Earth or Old Earth?
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Quote:Shlama Akhi Chuck,


The day age theory was born of the theory of evolution- "cosmological evolution", which is the theory that the entire universe evolved from a "singularity" 15 billion years ago - a single infinitesimal point in which all the matter and space of the present universe inhered. From that came the stars and from the stars came the planets, including earth, the water, the plants, and the animals. Even those who stop short of biological evolution and say God created living things directly pretty much as they are now, still accept cosmic evolution by default when they subscribe to the day-age theory, which comes from a Godless premise and theory, not from scripture.

As I wrote before, the scripture says earth existed on the first day whereas the stars were made and set in the heavens on the fourth day. This is flatly contradicted by all scientific theory on the origin of the universe, which asserts the stars to be about 10 billion years older than earth. "Science" also contradicts the Biblical order of the plants being created on the third day, before the sun, which was made on the fourth day (presumably billions of years after plants), which is an absurdity. Even if you shorten each day to a thousand years, you have green plants of all sorts and trees existing without the sun for centuries!
I???ll repeat again what I have said a number of times already???and hope to make it a bit clearer.

I am not dogmatic about what I say???I am pointing out some Scriptures and pondering them rather and taking a close look at what it says there???

Regarding the Heaven and the Earth being created ???IN THE BEGINNING??????. I wasn???t there to witness how and how fast God did His work of creation???. And it doesn???t change the fact for me that it was God who did the work, whether He snapped His fingers so to speak and the Heaven and Earth appeared in an instant or that He may have worked with His hands and took His sweet time???

I have been pointing out that the Scripture passages there in Genesis chapter one seem to show that the Heaven and the Earth were created by God first in an unfurnished state???. and that after the Earth was thus created ???In the beginning??? that the Spirit of God was hovering above this unfurnished Earth BEFORE God said: LET THERE BE LIGHT!

And thus started His Six Days of furnishing them, the Heaven and the Earth He had created in the beginning???.

Now, we know that this ???Light??? is not our planet???s Sun, nor can it be any of the other Suns/Stars out there because they were all created on the 4th ???Day??????

This Light would seem sufficient to help the plant life grow up all over the Earth during the 3rd day???before the Sun arrived on the scene whether it were a 24-hour Day or a One Thousand year Day???

And concerning this 3rd ???Day??????. lets look close???. it says there in Genesis 1:11 And God said: ???Let the Earth bring forth???. and the Earth brought forth???. (The grasses, herbs, and all the kinds of trees.)

Notice that? The Earth brought vegetation forth and it grew up from the ground???. that is a process is it not? It does not say there that God planted them all full grown, or that they instantaneously appeared all over the planet in an instant full grown with fruit hanging on the trees???. But it says that God commanded the Earth to ???bring them forth??? and it did so???as it does to this day???.

Also, on the 5th ???Day??? it says that God commanded the Waters to bring forth the moving creatures of the Sea as well as the foul of every kind???and it says that the Waters brought them forth???God of course making all of this work???He was making it all happen???and again we see a process of something bringing something else forth???. By Gods commands???

Also, on the 6th ???Day??? God said: Let the Earth bring forth the Animals???. and again we see a process taking place???. later in Genesis 2:19 it gives us further information when it reveals that God ???out of the ground/Earth He formed every beast of the field and every foul of the air???a process and a working/forming going on here???.


Quote:Why should believers in the word of God feel compelled to compromise with Godless theories and "oppositions of science falsely so called??? ? 1 Tim 6:20
They shouldn???t???.

Quote:Evolutionary theory does not start with apes becoming humans. It starts with the Big Bang 15 billion years ago and covers every hypothetical event which supposedly transpired since then, making the galaxies of stars, planets, atmospheres, earth, ocean, land, first life form from chemicals, all plants from that one celled organism, all animals from that one celled organism (or from another independently evolved living organism), fish into amphibians, amphibians to reptiles, reptiles to birds and mammals, including apes, and apes into humans. Biological evolution is only the tip of the iceberg, under which tip lies 14 billion years of previous evolutionary development responsible for the universe we know of today. We cannot effectively deny the tip of the iceberg and thereby dismiss faith in evolution, when we ignore the 95% huge mass under the surface on which the visible part rests.
God said it???. and BANG! There it was???. <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/wink1.gif" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink --> Out of nothing came everything???. And the carnal mind will try and explain how it happened???But God tells us what we need to know in His Word???

Quote:Most people seem to think evolution is merely the biological changing of living species. That is a delusion based on ignorance.
You notice how God didn???t ask man for his ideas on how to do His work and all their theories haven???t changed reality one bit as to how or how long He took to do His work???

Quote:All evolutionary theories- biological and the underlying cosmological evolution, depend on a belief in billions of years. Many Christians seem willing to concede that foundational basis and still think they can win the intellectual and spiritual war with Satan and his army. That too is a delusion.
The carnal mind is enmity with God???. Yeshua didn???t argue with satan???. He just pointed to and quoted what was written in The Word???Theories come and go, but the Truth will remain forever???.

Quote:"If you give your enemy an inch, he will take a mile."; at least, so the saying goes.
I???ve read the end of the Bible???it doesn???t end in a bummer???. And God is glorified in His Saints???

Quote:The Western church has given 14.9999996 billion miles, as it were, to the enemy, and thinks to hold on firmly to the last 0.00004% (6000 years) of time as non-evolutionary time! I wonder who will win that argument!
God wins all arguments in the end???. and However God created the Universe is His business???. He didn???t bother waiting to ask us how He would go about it???. and we don???t know to this day every detail as to how or how long???. Men of all stripes will continue to ponder and argue over what and how this all is???. Until God spells it all out in detail for us???. And until then, I am content.

Quote:Some say:" Ah, but it isn't important. As long as we believe in Jesus and the Gospel"??? But that is the point. If the Enemy can discredit the account in Genesis as unreliable or unscientific, he can do the same with the New Testament and the resurrection of The Christ, all the miracles, everything! And he already has done so for countless souls, and continues to win hearts and minds, because we have fled the battle field and surrendered the battle for minds and hearts to the sceptics and unbelievers.
We don???t win hearts and minds???. God does???we can???t make anyone born again???God does???. Just like Yeshua said: no one can come to me UNLESS the Father draw them???. and when Yeshua prayed for ONLY those whom the Father gave to him???. We can???t get people saved by a good argument???. nor can we damn them if we don???t have all our facts straight???.

Quote:Where are the foot soldiers of The Messiah in this country?
Wherever God has put them???.

Quote:"If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Psalms 11:3 If Genesis 1 is not foundational, I don't know what is.
It is a revelation???. Only understood by those who have the Spirit of God dwelling within them and guiding them into all Truth???.


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Young Earth or Old Earth? - by rungold315 - 03-19-2008, 04:56 AM
Re: Young Earth or Old Earth? - by *Albion* - 03-19-2008, 05:31 PM
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Re: Young Earth or Old Earth? - by gbausc - 03-21-2008, 11:46 PM
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