02-10-2008, 08:36 PM
Dawid,
I told myself last night that I would NOT come back here and do this, but here I am.
Your NOT gonna like A LOT of what I have say.
1. Let's get REAL here.
The vast majority of Messianic Judaism (in AMERICA) IS IN A MESS.
Ditto for the Nazarenes.
There is SOME talk of convening "a Second Jerusalem Council" by some of the major players in the Messianic Jewish leadership here in North America.
The Second Jerusalem Council would be made up of PHYSICAL ISRAEL (and NOT Goyim wanna be's) and would include Messianic Jewish leaders from all over the planet.
As an interested Gentile who has friends that are Messianic Jews, I really hope that this Second Council actually takes place. But that's another story.
2. Now, let's get back to James Trimm.
I already KNEW last night that you did NOT have The Way International Aramaic-English New Testament, to even COMPARE it to Trimm's HRV New Testament.
Come on Dawid!!!! Pleaseeeeeee.
I WENT TO JAMES TRIMM on his 'Nazarene Judaism' e-list and tried to reason with him, ALONE.
You know his response to my trying to reason with HIM?
He threw me OFF THE LIST.
Then I've tried reasoning with him along side Schumel (or Steve Avery from New York City), who Owns and operates Messianic Apologetic (a Yahoo e-list) and Nana who also is on Steve's e-list.
Do you wanna know James Scott Trimm's reaction with US (3 witnesses) trying to reason with HIM?
He went to Yahoo and created a FAKE e-list called "Messianic Apologetics"!
The EXACT SAME NAME as Schmuel's e-list, but with an 's' on the end!
You NEED to go and read Kathrine Kern's website:
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So, I've DONE everything that you suggest that I should DO.
But NONE OF THIS IS ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS. NOR WAS IT BEFORE.
You need to STOP your incessant whining about "Lashon Ha Ra".
I used to drive a public school bus for 7 years, and your sounding more and more like some Junior High School kid that I had to write up for being in trouble on the bus!
If he (or she) had not caused trouble in the first place, they would've NOT been in trouble!
But whining is certainly NOT gonna fix anything! THEN or NOW.
Just chill. Put on a Jimmy Buffett CD, put your feet up, and kick back. Everything's gonna be OK, because this stuff about James Trimm is a MarYah thing, and MarYah is ALWAYS RIGHT ON TIME.
Do you actually THINK that I would have FINALLY gone to The Way International unless and until, I had TRIED EVERYTHING ELSE FIRST?
There are multiple witnesses to ALL of this, including Akhan Paul Younan:
Paul Younan 5. "RE: Dr. Trimm on AramaicNT.org"
Jun-08-2003 at 05:39 PM (GMT3)
Hi Akhi,
To be completely honest with you, I find it very annoying to
argue with someone who can't even speak Aramaic, about Aramaic.
James Trimm is a student. He learned whatever little he knows
from reading books. That's not a bad thing. What is bad is when
he sets himself up as some sort of authority on the topic, which
he is not.
What's worse is that he insists on arguing with me about the
meaning of words he has no clue about, about a language that is
completely foreign to him and that he can't even hold a 30-
second discussion in, face-to-face.
James Trimm is a person of Scottish lineage. His family background
is deep southern U.S. Protestant Christian, not Jewish.
Furthermore, James Trimm has absolutely NO credentials to be calling
himself a "Dr.", and you shouldn't address him as
such, either. That gives people the wrong impression, but
that's your choice.
Nobody who really knows a spit of Aramaic pays any attention
to him, as Dr. Kiraz will attest to you.
I will be here to answer any questions you need me for, but
realize that I have serious qualms about giving him any more
undeserved attention than he already gets.
Paul Younan
Fk^rwbw 0ml4
Peshitta.org
3. I REST MY CASE.
Albion
I told myself last night that I would NOT come back here and do this, but here I am.
Your NOT gonna like A LOT of what I have say.
1. Let's get REAL here.
The vast majority of Messianic Judaism (in AMERICA) IS IN A MESS.
Ditto for the Nazarenes.
There is SOME talk of convening "a Second Jerusalem Council" by some of the major players in the Messianic Jewish leadership here in North America.
The Second Jerusalem Council would be made up of PHYSICAL ISRAEL (and NOT Goyim wanna be's) and would include Messianic Jewish leaders from all over the planet.
As an interested Gentile who has friends that are Messianic Jews, I really hope that this Second Council actually takes place. But that's another story.
2. Now, let's get back to James Trimm.
I already KNEW last night that you did NOT have The Way International Aramaic-English New Testament, to even COMPARE it to Trimm's HRV New Testament.
Come on Dawid!!!! Pleaseeeeeee.
I WENT TO JAMES TRIMM on his 'Nazarene Judaism' e-list and tried to reason with him, ALONE.
You know his response to my trying to reason with HIM?
He threw me OFF THE LIST.
Then I've tried reasoning with him along side Schumel (or Steve Avery from New York City), who Owns and operates Messianic Apologetic (a Yahoo e-list) and Nana who also is on Steve's e-list.
Do you wanna know James Scott Trimm's reaction with US (3 witnesses) trying to reason with HIM?
He went to Yahoo and created a FAKE e-list called "Messianic Apologetics"!
The EXACT SAME NAME as Schmuel's e-list, but with an 's' on the end!
You NEED to go and read Kathrine Kern's website:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.lebtahor.com/truth/trimm/jamestrimm.htm">http://www.lebtahor.com/truth/trimm/jamestrimm.htm</a><!-- m -->
So, I've DONE everything that you suggest that I should DO.
But NONE OF THIS IS ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS. NOR WAS IT BEFORE.
You need to STOP your incessant whining about "Lashon Ha Ra".
I used to drive a public school bus for 7 years, and your sounding more and more like some Junior High School kid that I had to write up for being in trouble on the bus!
If he (or she) had not caused trouble in the first place, they would've NOT been in trouble!
But whining is certainly NOT gonna fix anything! THEN or NOW.
Just chill. Put on a Jimmy Buffett CD, put your feet up, and kick back. Everything's gonna be OK, because this stuff about James Trimm is a MarYah thing, and MarYah is ALWAYS RIGHT ON TIME.
Do you actually THINK that I would have FINALLY gone to The Way International unless and until, I had TRIED EVERYTHING ELSE FIRST?
There are multiple witnesses to ALL of this, including Akhan Paul Younan:
Paul Younan 5. "RE: Dr. Trimm on AramaicNT.org"
Jun-08-2003 at 05:39 PM (GMT3)
Hi Akhi,
To be completely honest with you, I find it very annoying to
argue with someone who can't even speak Aramaic, about Aramaic.
James Trimm is a student. He learned whatever little he knows
from reading books. That's not a bad thing. What is bad is when
he sets himself up as some sort of authority on the topic, which
he is not.
What's worse is that he insists on arguing with me about the
meaning of words he has no clue about, about a language that is
completely foreign to him and that he can't even hold a 30-
second discussion in, face-to-face.
James Trimm is a person of Scottish lineage. His family background
is deep southern U.S. Protestant Christian, not Jewish.
Furthermore, James Trimm has absolutely NO credentials to be calling
himself a "Dr.", and you shouldn't address him as
such, either. That gives people the wrong impression, but
that's your choice.
Nobody who really knows a spit of Aramaic pays any attention
to him, as Dr. Kiraz will attest to you.
I will be here to answer any questions you need me for, but
realize that I have serious qualms about giving him any more
undeserved attention than he already gets.
Paul Younan
Fk^rwbw 0ml4
Peshitta.org
3. I REST MY CASE.
Albion