Acts 2:24 Redux

[Dave]

Ours is an ethnic movement, but yours is not?

Really, your talking to the wrong guy on that subject Paul, I really don't care for culturistic issues, I really just don't care one bit about it.

My great grandfather was a german jew who left germany on my dads side of the family, My moms side is also german with chocktaw indian mixed in.

Do you see me holding that jewish side of me up like that is something important here to anyone, as if I am something?

"Hey look at me, I'm a jew now, you gotta give me special appreciatation just because of that fact!!"

Yea right.

Really, your talking to the wrong person if you are trying to label me in regards to racial issues.

The Greek church is an ethnic church as well. However, you have no intention of questioning their claims to primacy and would never dream of insinuating that their claims to primacy are simply "cultural pride."

I don't get it, I do not care about the greek standardized text either but your saying that I defend it? I put it down quite a few times in these posts also. I want originality. I lean towards the western text of the 1st to 3rd centuries instead of the standardized texts. Just because it is greek doesn't matter to me.

Weren't those millions of Aramaic-speaking Gentiles in the vicinity of Jerusalem and to the East of Jerusalem worthy of salvation? Worthy of receiving a text of scripture in their own language so they could understand what the message was? The Message originally delivered in their own language, anyway?

Do you not see how ludicrous that is?

Well yes, they are entitled to the good news like anyone in the world. I wish those who were so near to the heart of it all would have provided us a text that resembled the 1st to 3rd century texts. Then I would have been astonished beyond all belief!

And then you have the gall to say that God "removed" the understanding from the Hebrew people. If it were not for the Hebrew people who followed God's command, and their Messiah, who came and baptized your predecessors the Greeks, you would still be worshipping trees.

Again, your taking what I say in the wrong light, or I'm not conveying my thoughts exact enough, or something.

Did not the jews have the message brought to them first then God went to the world? These are the hebrews I talk about, these are the people who would not receive Jesus and His ministry and rejected Him. Now, did not God remove everything from them? Yes He did. Everything. There are no prophets that arise out of the jews anymore, and your certainly not going to see a born again jew.

All of God's protection, all of His spoken words, all of His miracles, gone from those people. It was God's way of doing it, He made the decision in this.

As soon as you presume to exclude Aramaic-speakers from the "Body of Christ", then you have come off as racist to me and to anyone else here who happens to be in the same ethno-linguistic group as I.

Yes, I do not like this syriac text. Why? Because it is standardized just like the majority of greek texts are. I want originality and truth, and until I see God directing me and others to use this text and there could never be anthing better, then I will.

Now where you get that because I do not like a syriac text as I hate aramaic speakers such as yourself, or greek speakers for that matter, I'll leave that for you to figure out.

What are you going to do with the harder stuff? Brush me aside all you want. Claim I have some sort of brain-washed following here. I don't care for any of it. I have the feeling right now to just shut the damn thing off altogether. I'm not selling you anything. I could care less what you believe. I'm here for those who want to question the currently accepted dogmas. I'm here to share whatever knowledge and talent God has given me for the sake of those interested in the same topic, and who believe, as I do, the ridiculous assumption that the teaching of Christ were actually cared about enough to be preserved in the original language and setting. I know it's an unreasonable assumption, I know.

Really, I wish it was that easy.


"My people die for a lack of knowledge"

To have an acceptable sacrifice to God, one must touch His heart. To touch His heart is to help the body of Christ, His people.

What God has for me to do will directly impact the body of Christ. We are parts of one another. If what I do has no relevence in that regards, it's as if I did nothing for Him the whole time that I knew Him here.

I don't know how others feel, but I think that is one of the most reasonable measuring lines of ourselves to Him, and should help gauge if we are doing His will or our own.

As long as I have the right intentions and follow Him and His plans in that regards, then things are ok. I think many people should look at themselves some in this light.