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"Losing Jesus' Language"
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Shlama Akhi Andrew,

Before I begin, I want to say that I am more than happy to see how eager you are to actually debate with me. However, let's stay sober-minded. Most of all, let's stay open minded towards one another. This is not a war, as I was once convinced. This is a debate between you and I. Can we keep it that way?

Quote:First of all, the word goes forth from Zion, but I never said it stayed there. There is is one Torah for Jew and for foreigner, so I never said the Torah or the BIble was just for Jews and Christians.And if these are your loving Koranic principles in calling all Zionists evil, then you have either shamed the true Koran or proved it false.

I did not say all Zionists are evil. I simply pasted an excerpt of an interview with a Rabbi who is against Zionists. My purpose for quoting him was to emphasize the peaceful coexistence of Jews and Arabs for over 1,100 years.

Again, I do not care about Zionists, the modern state of Israel, or its political situation.

Quote: and contrary to your traditon they never set foot in Arabia either.

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Quote:As for documenting Islamic cruelty to Jews and Christians, why not read about Tamerlane, and if that is not enough, I'm sure we can give you more.


We've talked about the Mongal plenty of times over. But he emerged CENTURIES AFTER THE PROPHET FROM A LAND WITH A NOTABLY DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY. Like I ask, give me at least three examples of caliphs who were notably cruel to Christians and Jews (nearest to the period of the Prophet). If you cannot, then apologize. After all, the burden of proof is on you.

Quote:Furthemore, Y'shua said that when you hear of a prophet out in the desertn urgin you to follow after him TO IGNORE HIM, or did you miss that one too?


The Jews follow after Moses. Christians follow after Jesus. What are you talking about?

Quote:I can stand on the Peshitta NT and understand my OT just fine from it alone. I have the greatest Rabbi who ever lived, the Son of YHWH Himself, to teach me, opening me to the Scriptures under the Ruach Ha Kodesh.

1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him.

Surah 112

Do you agree? Moses would.

Quote:And my nation is STILL CHARGED with being a light to all nations even as a Jew named Paul witnessed to those same nations. Messiah was a Jew and he is the light of the world. As long as Y'shua is believed in, Israel is still the source of that light. Always was. Always will be. Don't believe me? Read Romans 11. My people are entrusted with the eternal words of YHWH. We did not lose them.

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof (Matthew 21:43)

Jesus says differently than Paul.

Quote:Now I will tell you what I believe. All people, everywhere, regardless of race, creed, national origin or any other factor, have ONE REDEEMER and ONE MESSIAH. ONE REVELATION FOR ALL MEN, AND LET ME SAY THIS CLEARLY, IT IS NOT THE KORAN. One Torah (and NT) for Jew, Gentile, foreigner, Arab, black, white, green, red. One Path to Life through Maran Eshoa Meshikha, the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF ALAHA, born of a virgin, worker of miracles and risen from the dead on the third day.

If being born of a virgin qualifies Eeshoa to be the 'son of God,' then surely Adam has more right than he.

Quote:So I don't care what you are, where you are from, your culture, your goals, your tastes, your likes and dislikes, all are null and irrelevant. Y'shua is the only way, the only truth, and the only life.

According to the author(s) of John

Quote:You have poorly represented your faith Bar Khela.

I'm just getting warm
???Do not give up, for that is ignorance and not according to the rules of this art... Like the lover, you cannot hope to achieve success without infinite perseverance.???
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Messages In This Thread
"Losing Jesus' Language" - by oozeaddai - 02-05-2005, 05:36 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-05-2005, 10:25 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-06-2005, 01:22 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-06-2005, 09:15 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-06-2005, 01:47 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-06-2005, 01:58 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-06-2005, 02:21 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-06-2005, 02:33 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-06-2005, 03:00 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-06-2005, 03:48 PM
Christ incarnate is in our midst - by gbausc - 02-06-2005, 05:07 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-06-2005, 06:23 PM
[No subject] - by peshitta_enthusiast - 02-06-2005, 06:51 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-06-2005, 07:47 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-06-2005, 08:16 PM
[No subject] - by oozeaddai - 02-07-2005, 03:54 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-07-2005, 06:41 PM
Not having it. - by bar_khela - 02-07-2005, 08:05 PM
Re: Not having it. - by Dan Gan - 02-08-2005, 02:24 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-08-2005, 03:22 AM
Re: Not having it. - by bar_khela - 02-08-2005, 09:32 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-08-2005, 10:06 PM
Michael the Elder - by bar_khela - 02-09-2005, 05:12 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-09-2005, 05:22 PM
'Put to the Sword' - by bar_khela - 02-09-2005, 06:17 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-09-2005, 06:47 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-09-2005, 11:15 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-10-2005, 12:35 AM
I don't believe this - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-10-2005, 01:14 AM
Re: I don't believe this - by bar_khela - 02-10-2005, 08:24 PM
Re: I don't believe this - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-11-2005, 01:44 AM
[No subject] - by oozeaddai - 02-13-2005, 02:55 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-13-2005, 07:33 PM
Re: I don't believe this - by bar_khela - 02-14-2005, 03:39 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-14-2005, 05:21 PM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-14-2005, 11:04 PM
[No subject] - by judge - 02-14-2005, 11:32 PM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-15-2005, 12:00 AM
[No subject] - by judge - 02-15-2005, 08:48 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-15-2005, 11:13 PM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-16-2005, 01:43 AM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-17-2005, 12:17 AM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-17-2005, 03:38 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-18-2005, 12:36 AM
[No subject] - by Uma - 02-18-2005, 03:50 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-18-2005, 04:12 PM
Islam and Allah - by shimoun63 - 02-18-2005, 04:42 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-18-2005, 06:20 PM
ALLAH IS A ZIONIST - by Uma - 02-18-2005, 06:27 PM
[No subject] - by oozeaddai - 02-18-2005, 07:04 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-18-2005, 07:11 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-18-2005, 09:09 PM
[No subject] - by oozeaddai - 02-19-2005, 03:07 AM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-19-2005, 05:18 AM
[No subject] - by shimoun63 - 02-19-2005, 08:26 AM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-19-2005, 02:18 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-20-2005, 04:20 AM
[No subject] - by oozeaddai - 02-21-2005, 01:40 AM

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