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"Losing Jesus' Language"
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Akhi Bar Khela, have you forgotten me? Have you forgotten the kindness I have shown you? Apparently you have--I AM A ZIONIST. I WAS BORN A ZIONIST AND I WILL DIE A ZIONIST, PROUD OF MY PEOPLE AND MY HERITAGE.

To be a Zionist, as even Martin Luther King Jr. observed, is to believe that Hebrew people have a right to exist in Israel within peaceful and secure borders. Nothing more, and nothing less. So Zionism is not racism, anti-Zionism is. Don't parse words with me about Arabs not being anti-Semites because they ARE Semitic themselves. But many of them are anti-JEWISH--they want to drive every last one of my people into the sea. They are Haman. They are Hitler. They will fail.

If the Palestinians(Fatah and Hamas) wanted peace they would have taken the deal they got in 1999. If they wanted peace they would not say "end the occupation" and have it apply to ALL OF ISRAEL, even the parts not in dispute. If they wanted peace, the PLO's emblem would not be a bloody knife through ALL OF ISRAEL. If they wanted peace they would have kept EVEN ONE provision of the Oslo Accord whereas the Israelis made serious attempts--we can argue over some details--to keep every provision in one way or another. If they wanted peace they would not put suicide bombers who blow up innocents on schoolbuses as the moral equivalent of combatants and heros. AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DANCED IN THE STREETS WHILE WE DIED ON SEPTEMBER 11TH AND THEN TRY TO SAY ISRAEL DID IT WHEN THEY KNOW IT WA OSAMA AND PRAISED HIM FOR IT, IF THEY WANTED PEACE!!!

As for myself, I have no problem with Palestinians living in Israel, and participating in the government. If they did, they might even become the majority and could legislate the changes they want. But they won't do that, because they want Israel to die. And it's not as if they have not been invited to participate often, because they have.

And when I read crap like this, where you paint with such a broad brush my entire race:

Today???s wicked Zionists are just like their predecessors, who were responsible for causing terrible suffering in Palestine with their wars with the Arabs, may G-d have mercy. At that time in 1929, the Zionists had a slogan arguing that the Western Wall in Jerusalem was a Jewish ???national symbol.??? Of course, the Arabs disagreed with this idea, considering that they had control of the location for over 1,100 years. However, the Zionist mobs were yelling that ???The Wall is ours!??? It???s hard to understand why they felt that way considering they have no connection to the Jewish holy places whatsoever. An argument erupted in the Jewish newspapers about establishing a permanent prayer area for Jews at the Wall. This provoked the Arabs, and the rabbi of Jerusalem at the time, Rabbi Yosef Chaim Zonnenfeld begged them to stop and to be appreciative to the Arabs for allowing Jews to pray at the Wall for so many centuries undisturbed. However, the Zionists wanted a permanent setup under their control.


...it makes my blood boil. As if you know about "all Zionists" when I am one. How would you feel if I generalized about your race or religion? ANd why should we not try to build a wall against people who want to destroy us? Is Israel the first country to think of this? Would you have protested Chin Chuan's building efforts in China 2000 years ago if you were there?

Again, I have no qualms with peaceful coexistence of Jews and Palestinians, and there is a belief among some Orthodox that spiritual Israel must be established first, hence the rabbinic quotes. But remember, it was THEY who attacked us on the day we became a state. It was THEY who committed murder on our holiest day of the year in 1973, hijacked our planes, and killed out athletes in Munich.

Israel is my ancestral home, and anyone who would deny me the right to live there earns my wrath. Anyone who takes away my ineritance or tells me my holy places are not mine will find me a fierce and determined foe. You think we will allow Israel to go so the next Hitler can round us up and put us into gas chambers? NEVER AGAIN!

SHAME ON YOU!
Shlama w'burkate
Andrew Gabriel Roth
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"Losing Jesus' Language" - by oozeaddai - 02-05-2005, 05:36 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-05-2005, 10:25 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-06-2005, 01:22 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-06-2005, 09:15 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-06-2005, 01:47 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-06-2005, 01:58 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-06-2005, 02:21 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-06-2005, 02:33 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-06-2005, 03:00 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-06-2005, 03:48 PM
Christ incarnate is in our midst - by gbausc - 02-06-2005, 05:07 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-06-2005, 06:23 PM
[No subject] - by peshitta_enthusiast - 02-06-2005, 06:51 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-06-2005, 07:47 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-06-2005, 08:16 PM
[No subject] - by oozeaddai - 02-07-2005, 03:54 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-07-2005, 06:41 PM
Not having it. - by bar_khela - 02-07-2005, 08:05 PM
Re: Not having it. - by Dan Gan - 02-08-2005, 02:24 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-08-2005, 03:22 AM
Re: Not having it. - by bar_khela - 02-08-2005, 09:32 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-08-2005, 10:06 PM
Michael the Elder - by bar_khela - 02-09-2005, 05:12 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-09-2005, 05:22 PM
'Put to the Sword' - by bar_khela - 02-09-2005, 06:17 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-09-2005, 06:47 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-09-2005, 11:15 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-10-2005, 12:35 AM
I don't believe this - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-10-2005, 01:14 AM
Re: I don't believe this - by bar_khela - 02-10-2005, 08:24 PM
Re: I don't believe this - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-11-2005, 01:44 AM
[No subject] - by oozeaddai - 02-13-2005, 02:55 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-13-2005, 07:33 PM
Re: I don't believe this - by bar_khela - 02-14-2005, 03:39 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-14-2005, 05:21 PM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-14-2005, 11:04 PM
[No subject] - by judge - 02-14-2005, 11:32 PM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-15-2005, 12:00 AM
[No subject] - by judge - 02-15-2005, 08:48 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-15-2005, 11:13 PM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-16-2005, 01:43 AM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-17-2005, 12:17 AM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-17-2005, 03:38 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-18-2005, 12:36 AM
[No subject] - by Uma - 02-18-2005, 03:50 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-18-2005, 04:12 PM
Islam and Allah - by shimoun63 - 02-18-2005, 04:42 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-18-2005, 06:20 PM
ALLAH IS A ZIONIST - by Uma - 02-18-2005, 06:27 PM
[No subject] - by oozeaddai - 02-18-2005, 07:04 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-18-2005, 07:11 PM
[No subject] - by bar_khela - 02-18-2005, 09:09 PM
[No subject] - by oozeaddai - 02-19-2005, 03:07 AM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-19-2005, 05:18 AM
[No subject] - by shimoun63 - 02-19-2005, 08:26 AM
[No subject] - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 02-19-2005, 02:18 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-20-2005, 04:20 AM
[No subject] - by oozeaddai - 02-21-2005, 01:40 AM

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