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What is Aramaic meaning of born again?
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Arnold Fruchtenbaum has explained that in the Jewish world of the day there were several ways a man could be born again
Bar Mitzva
becoming a rabbi
being married
becoming a very senior scholar of the house of Israel

Jesus is playing a teasing game with Nicodemus for very high stakes in the same way as aramaic word plays are pointed out here show him to use humour

He is saying Nic Nic yer goin' ter have to be born *again*
so

Nic hold hard
I've already been born again every which way i can be with out going back to stage 1
ie he is teasing Jesus back

then Jesus goes from humour to a big punchlines v 10 and v 12


the kingdom of God is not seen with human understanding

Nicodemus asks a human question - are you a prophet and Jesus answers
with a much deeper one

a new change of life as deep if not more so than the ones you have already experiencd is necessary for you to see the kingdom of God

then there is all that wind stuff
jesus is using the language of paradigm shift

he is talking about a different paradigm in diff paradigm language

v 3:11 Jesus is saying to him in a way he will recognise that he is God Iam the Iam

In other words the exchange goes

N Are you a prophet?
J I want to open up a new world and a new way and I am
N I kinda see it but I don't understand it
J Be careful this is new and scary but it is not negotiable - get with the programme cos you have just been given a great deal and a lot will be expected of you

How many ways can I try to write this and still fail to comprehend my own responsibility?

In him Christ everything is different
and everything I hold dear
everything I work towards
and every instinct I have to do things in the way I know
ought to be transformed
how can I be so weak that Christ is formed in me
and the new world opened and danced
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born again - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 08-01-2004, 07:07 PM
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