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Epistole Pros Ephesious, Ignatios Theophoros (died 107-117)
Shlama Akhi Craig,

Quote:but notice the complete lack of any mention of Ioannis (John), which shows that Ignatios, Episkopos (Bishop) of Antiochia, was somehow ignorant of Yokhanan bar Zavdee of the Twelve writing the city (much less living there) even after his meeting with Onesimos the current Episkopos (Bishop) of Ephesos.

This looks even worse when you consider that Polycarp was a disciple of John (I'm going from memory here...correct me if I'm wrong on that).
Isn't this problem and others like it that have led some to believe that John the presbyter as opposed to John the Apostle was the real author of the Apocalypse? If that's the case, Elder John must have been both highly prophetical and apostolical in his gifting / anointing because the Apostle Paul showed cautiousness at times with statements like "not building on anothers' foundation", etc. Elder John (or whichever John it is) comes on like gangbusters--"Hey all you leaders of those 7 churches-you better get those flocks that have been assigned to you in order-the Lord has shown me a list of your strengths and weaknesses so you better strengthen the things that remain and repent over the things that don't remain!" <!-- sConfusedtern: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/stern.gif" alt="Confusedtern:" title="Stern" /><!-- sConfusedtern: -->

Shlama w'Burkate, Larry Kelsey

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[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-02-2004, 04:40 AM
Re..... - by Larry Kelsey - 02-02-2004, 06:06 AM

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