09-06-2014, 09:37 AM
Quote:P.S. - Chuck, some food for thought. When others point out that the Netzari where considered to be heretics do you bring to their attention that they should not share such things being it might could in some shape or fashion end up separating the wheat from the tears? Or do you say from within "yep"? Just wondering if you only police people with opinions different than your's, or if you also police people that believe as you do when they pass knowledge on to others in a public forum that other may not agree with.
I don't rely on my own opinions, Will...they aren't reliable! I look to The Holy Scriptures, and to The Apostolic Tradition, which was passed down from the beginning to all the Churches. There were factions from the very start, even before the Gentiles came into the fold...and there will be until Messiah returns to clean up the mess people make. All the spots will be removed, and all the wrinkles will be ironed out before it's all said and done.
What did these ones say were heretical that the Netzari teach? Do you have a list of all the Netzari doctrines? If so, I'd like to look them over. I consider Mr. Andrew Roth to be my brother in Messiah, though we might not agree on everything or interpret everything the same way. He and I do agree though, that The Church of the East is a good place to be Baptized in, and he has preceded me in that activity...not sure if you knew that.
But, if I should read or hear something I feel like commenting on, I usually do, unless I sense the Holy Spirit specifically telling me not to. I'll say this...I'm real tired of all the divisions among us. Some say The Christians aren't doing it or believing it all right, and that The Messianics aren't doing it or believing it right, or that The Netzaris aren't doing it or believing it right.... I say, we all have some Wood, Hay, and Stubble to be burned up...both individually and corporately, and we all have some Gold, Silver, and Precious Gems which will be purified in the fire to come.
I don't love my Brothers and Sisters in Messiah, because they might see everything the same way as I might see it, I love them because I have the love of Messiah in me, period...and am compelled to love them, even if they might despise or reject me for not believing and practicing all of their particular group's tenants. I'm not thinking you do...and I hope you don't.
Here is a passage in Mark and Luke, which I always think of regarding these things.
Mark 9: 38-40
"Yohannan said to him, "Rabbi, we saw a man casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him because he did not go out with us." Yeshua said to them, "Do not forbid him, for there is no man who does a powerful work in my name and can soon speak badly about me. Whoever therefore is not against you is for you."
Luke 9:49-50
"And Yohannan answered and said, "Our Master, we saw a man who cast out a demon in your name and we forbade him, for he does not come after you with us." Yeshua said to them, "You shall not forbid, for whoever is not against you is for you."
Shlama,
Chuck
.