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Word play in aramaic and syriac
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Shlama?

When I say Aramaic primacy, I don?t mean that the dialect of the Peshitta was the one of Jesus, or that the Peshitta is the ?original version? written by the apostles. I mean that the Gospels aren?t born written in Greek nor in Hebrew. For me, the gospels were first composed in the mother?s tongue of the Apostles (Aramaic, whatever the dialect is), then written down (always in Aramaic) and for the Hellenistic, they (the gospels) were translated into Greek the same way that the Torah was translated into Aramaic?
So I agree with Distazo, I think the Peshitta is a revision of an original text written in a different dialect.

I know nothing at all about Galilean dialect, so if you have some example of this dialect, I?d like to read it. But even without knowing it, I think about this: Jesus is a Galilean, and the Galilee has seen a lot of Greek speaker come? Also it wouldn?t be weird that the dialect spoken by Jesus , was influenced by the Greek? and the Syriac (unlike the Hebrew-Aramaic dialect, Mandaic?) is composed of many Greek words. I?d be not surprised if the tongue of Jesus was influenced by Syriac. Moreover, some testimony of the Aramaic language of Jesus that we find in the Greek, can give an additional argument. An example: ephphata/ephpheta (in Bezae D 05) looks more like the Syriac ethpa??el/ethp??el than the Aramaic hithpa??el. An example is the drop of the iota in some manuscripts with [talitha/tabitha] qoum, what appeared in syriac. There?s the ?qorban? too where the Peshitta has qorbany?

What I want to mean that the dialect of Jesus can look like the Syriac, and that the Peshitta, is not disconnected of the tongue of Jesus. The Peshitta is a reliable Text even, if sometime it wouldn?t be the case because of the specificity of the dialects? In Luke, it?s John who speaks and (I think) is not a Galilean so he don?t speak the same dialect as Jesus. The peshitta can?t reproduce exactly what it ?s said, but stay the nearest of the original says? (but in any case, no text can?t have the exactly speeches because there?s for example the sayings of Pilatos who didn?t speak Aramaic, the different dialects ?)

About the link (78 A.D.), is that text a Peshitta, or an another version ? Because Hegesippus (quoted by Eusebius) kwew a such gospel, but it's not sure it was the Peshitta...

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Word play in aramaic and syriac - by memradya - 02-27-2013, 08:26 PM
RE: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thomas - 05-27-2020, 04:56 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by distazo - 02-28-2013, 04:10 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2013, 04:27 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by memradya - 02-28-2013, 05:06 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by distazo - 03-01-2013, 06:59 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 03-01-2013, 07:45 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by memradya - 03-01-2013, 08:25 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by distazo - 03-01-2013, 08:40 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 03-02-2013, 01:07 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 03-03-2013, 07:29 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by memradya - 03-04-2013, 12:58 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by memradya - 03-04-2013, 08:47 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by distazo - 03-04-2013, 08:53 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by memradya - 03-05-2013, 04:37 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by distazo - 03-06-2013, 07:18 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 03-06-2013, 07:48 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 03-07-2013, 05:23 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 03-07-2013, 06:23 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by distazo - 03-07-2013, 10:49 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by memradya - 03-07-2013, 05:16 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 03-08-2013, 01:23 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 03-08-2013, 04:11 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 03-08-2013, 04:47 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by memradya - 03-08-2013, 01:25 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by memradya - 03-09-2013, 08:19 PM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 06-25-2014, 02:46 AM
Re: Word play in aramaic and syriac - by Thirdwoe - 06-28-2014, 09:12 PM

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