10-28-2012, 06:41 PM
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There is no such thing as a "Nestorian" idea. The Apostolic teaching has always been, that in The Messiah His Deity and Humanity are not one and the same, but are indeed separate...they are in a close union, but not mixed so that they are indistinguishable from each other. He is both God and Man, in one Person of The Messiah, The Word of God/The Son of God. Both born of God His Father, and His Human Mother.
The Messiah has existed from before time as The Word of God, who was brought forth from The Father from eternity...who has always been revealing and executing The Father's will, which in and through and for whom, He created the Universe... In the fullness of time, The Word of God/The Son of God...The Messiah came and tabernacled/pitched His tent among us...when He was incarnated for our redemption. Jesus, as to His humanity came to being in the same way as all Human do from their Mother's, yet, His Divine Nature is from God, His Father, through the Holy Spirit. Thus He is both Divine and Human as to His origination, both born in time=Flesh, and unborn from Eternity=Spirit.
I'm not certain how exactly Mr. Lamsa taught on this subject, or if his understanding of it effects his translation one way or the other. Can you point us to a verse in his translation?
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Quote:I disagree with the Nestorian idea that the humanity and deity of Christ dwell separately/side-by-side rather than being completely united.
There is no such thing as a "Nestorian" idea. The Apostolic teaching has always been, that in The Messiah His Deity and Humanity are not one and the same, but are indeed separate...they are in a close union, but not mixed so that they are indistinguishable from each other. He is both God and Man, in one Person of The Messiah, The Word of God/The Son of God. Both born of God His Father, and His Human Mother.
Quote:1. Jesus is both God and man, but Jesus' humanity and deity are completely separate. Christ has existed from eternity, while Jesus came into existence when He was conceived by the Holy Spirit.*
The Messiah has existed from before time as The Word of God, who was brought forth from The Father from eternity...who has always been revealing and executing The Father's will, which in and through and for whom, He created the Universe... In the fullness of time, The Word of God/The Son of God...The Messiah came and tabernacled/pitched His tent among us...when He was incarnated for our redemption. Jesus, as to His humanity came to being in the same way as all Human do from their Mother's, yet, His Divine Nature is from God, His Father, through the Holy Spirit. Thus He is both Divine and Human as to His origination, both born in time=Flesh, and unborn from Eternity=Spirit.
I'm not certain how exactly Mr. Lamsa taught on this subject, or if his understanding of it effects his translation one way or the other. Can you point us to a verse in his translation?
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