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Andrej Wrote:
justalex Wrote:Andrej...

I do understand that most of you are probably "Aramaic Primacists" however you'd better look at the Greek word for "one" in this passage...

"I and my Father are one."
John 10:30
i am not a peshitta primacist, but what i read here made me an agnostic concerning the topic. i will know what to believe when i find, or write, a book that deals with the topic in a sufficient manner. i have not yet seen such a book.

i do not necessarily disagree with your view on the word "one" in this case. But i shall point out that it is completely irrelevant how we should interpret it, as you used the same word, and thus the same interpretations applys to whatever you said.
i merely stated that you made a statement that directly contradicts scripture, that is Jesus and the Father are not one, whereas he said they are. In what sense they are one does not matter for my argument. My argument is not that they are one in any sense, but that you said they are not one. If you can interpret Jesus' "one" to mean anything you want, i can also interpret your "one" to mean anything i want. In the end, you used the same word, "one", inseparable form Jesus' word "one", at least from my point of view (without further clarification, which you had not given).

Concerning the greek, though i believe it to be a numeral "one" in general, i agree that Jesus did not try to express that he is the Father. Just that he is the perfect revelation of the invisible, unknowable father.


Andrej,

It really doesn't matter whether or not you agree with me... it's the DBR YHWH with which I agree And you ideology that YAHUshuah is the perfect "revelation" of ABBA YHWH is just that, your's...

I made NO statement contradicting any scripture... that YOU particularly say I did, is meaningless to me, as I have given all the evidence needed to support what was originally said...

justalex
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What is this? - by soneroboricua - 12-21-2010, 02:59 AM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-21-2010, 12:25 PM
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Re: What is this? - by distazo - 12-21-2010, 04:05 PM
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Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-21-2010, 06:09 PM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-21-2010, 06:12 PM
Re: What is this? - by soneroboricua - 12-21-2010, 07:45 PM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-21-2010, 09:03 PM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-21-2010, 09:19 PM
Re: What is this? - by soneroboricua - 12-21-2010, 10:49 PM
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Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-22-2010, 12:02 AM
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Re: What is this? - by Andrej - 12-22-2010, 02:44 AM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-22-2010, 05:41 AM
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Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-22-2010, 11:09 AM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-22-2010, 11:20 AM
Re: What is this? - by Andrej - 12-22-2010, 11:56 AM
Re: What is this? - by Andrej - 12-22-2010, 12:13 PM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-22-2010, 12:54 PM
Re: What is this? - by soneroboricua - 12-22-2010, 03:45 PM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-22-2010, 04:56 PM
Re: What is this? - by Andrej - 12-22-2010, 09:12 PM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-22-2010, 10:06 PM
Re: What is this? - by Jerry - 12-22-2010, 10:18 PM
Re: What is this? - by soneroboricua - 12-22-2010, 11:41 PM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-23-2010, 12:13 AM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-23-2010, 12:15 AM
Re: What is this? - by soneroboricua - 12-23-2010, 01:48 AM
Re: What is this? - by soneroboricua - 12-23-2010, 01:53 AM
Re: What is this? - by Andrej - 12-23-2010, 03:16 AM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-23-2010, 11:05 AM
Re: What is this? - by justalex - 12-23-2010, 12:11 PM
Re: What is this? - by Stephen Silver - 12-23-2010, 02:57 PM
Re: What is this? - by soneroboricua - 12-23-2010, 05:58 PM
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