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In Response to Matti 7:6
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Shlama,

yeah, i know i'm resurrecting an old topic, but i was recently in Matthew 7, and i wanted to see if i could find any other references to the whole "earring" / "holy object" aspect. here's what i was able to pick up from a few different sources that seems to only add to the idea that the Greek, at best, only got it partly right, with the sense of "holy," whereas it seems that the Peshitta really does refer to "earring / holy object," -- as the below info seems to suggest is an equal and irrevocably linked connection.

here's what i found:

#1. In the book ISRAEL and HELLAS, Vol 3, by John Pairman Brown, on page 230, the author states that ?the Peshitta by luck points to the intended 'earring.'? - that the Greek idea of ?holy? is a mistranslation. Instead, he says that Messiah was doubling on Proverbs 11:22, which speaks of a ring in the snout of a pig.
2001. Berlin; New York; de Gruyter.

(doesn't seem to get any clearer than that, does it?)

#2. According to LIPINSKI, E.: ?The Syro-Palestinian Iconography of Woman and Goddess?, Israel Exploration Journal 36, n. 1-2, Jerusalem 1986, p. 89. It is necessary to make a distinction between the naked goddesses, in several moments or movements, with a base, or standing over an animal, and the small figures or plaques found during excavations in Israel. These are dated since the Bronze Age up to the Iron Age II, in favissae, tombs, sanctuaries, and private houses, while others are from an unknown origin. Many of these figures, undoubtedly represent a goddess, but others are true ?concubines of the dead? or votive offerings of women that would like to have a baby by means of the ?sympathetic magic?, this interpretation confirmed by comparison to the Egyptian figures in the New Empire (1400-1200) that represent a naked woman laying down, milking a baby. Metal pendants of those that portrait the figure of the goddess QUDHU or QADESH are often used as earrings. This can be confirmed in the use of the Western-Semitic term qudasu/qedasa, in Neoasirian, Neobabilonian and Aramean, in the sense of an earring or a ring of a woman, with a naked feminine figure represented in a golden earring found in the tomb of Mamshit and a golden pendant discovered in ?Avdat. This figure represents in many cases the figure Aphrodite, identified in Hellenistic times with Astarte. However, amongst the Nabateans, Aphrodite is assimilated to the Arabic goddess al-?Uzza?, cfr. PATRICH, J.: ???l-uzza? Earrings?, IEJ 34, 1984, pp. 39-46, p. l6: B-D. The word qds refers to ?amulet? or ?sacred object? in the Egypt of the New Empire. Therefore, it is logical to think that it refers not to the main name given to this goddess, Qadesh, but that it is Anat or Astarte, as suggested in the interprestation of the inscription in the stele of Winchester College, cfr. EDWARDS, I.E.S.: ?A relief of Qudushu-Astarte-Anat in the Winchester College Collection?, JNES 14, 1955, pp. 49-51, pls. III-IV: ANEP, 3rd ed. No. 830.

(he links the earring to the holy object itself - this would make Paul's assertion and Abudar's assertion level out completely, right?)

and another reference to the above quote, but mentioned in a different source:

#3. In the book THE RELIGIONS OF ANCIENT ISRAEL: A SYNTHESIS OF PARALLACTIC APPROACHES, by Ziony Zevit, he mentions 16 steles from Egypt with a goddess known as ?Qudshu,? then in a footnote references the Qudashu ?earring? term from Neo-Assyrian, stating that it is a West Semitic loan word. But then makes the offer that from plaques found in the New Kingdom, it was used to refer to ?amulet? or ?sacred object.?
Published 2001, Continuum, New York, NY. Page 323, footnote 131.


i know that some may have already come to a conclusion on the matter, but i just had to share the above info that further substantiates what has been shared here before. hope it is helpful to someone!


Chayim b'Moshiach,
Jeremy
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In Response to Matti 7:6 - by abudar2000 - 09-15-2008, 11:20 PM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by Paul Younan - 09-16-2008, 04:07 AM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by Paul Younan - 09-16-2008, 04:45 AM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by abudar2000 - 09-16-2008, 08:08 AM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by abudar2000 - 09-16-2008, 02:56 PM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by Paul Younan - 09-16-2008, 03:04 PM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by Paul Younan - 09-16-2008, 04:42 PM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by abudar2000 - 09-16-2008, 11:06 PM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by Paul Younan - 09-17-2008, 03:15 AM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by Amatsyah - 09-17-2008, 03:16 AM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by Christina - 09-17-2008, 02:21 PM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by abudar2000 - 09-17-2008, 03:22 PM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by judge - 09-18-2008, 04:34 AM
Re: In Response to Matti 7:6 - by Paul Younan - 09-18-2008, 05:13 AM
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