09-20-2008, 08:58 PM
Shlama Akhi Spyridon,
Y'shua wasn't talking to himself when he prayed to Father YHWH. It was as you say, his human nature/will talking to the divine nature/will. I do not have a scizoophrenic Messiah, and also I really don't like the way you just anwered me and I will tell you why.
I just said, I don't use English terms. Don't throw those things my way. Please read my post fully and consult the more detailed presentation I gave if that post was not sufficient. I believe in the one-ness of YHWH because that is Scriptural and the full humanity and divinity (not 50% each, 100% each) of Messiah is also Scriptural. Engage me there if that is at issue. But my belief cannot be reduced to a cute label. I have given throug Scripture my definition and Easterners use definitions and metaphors to explain this stuff--NOT one word terms.
If you have questions or issues on the SCRIPTURE I gave either here or on the website, just tell me. If it is a linguistic issue not apparent in normal translations you may be comfortable with, I will try to explain. But I will not allow you to dismiss the breadth of what I said in such a casual and dare I say it, lazy manner. I have NO PATIENCE (which is why I do not do first contact) for simply being told that Christian tradition or a pastor or church by laws prove me wrong without Scripture to back those up. If I am wrong it is by Sola Scriptura, but you have to show me from Aramaic or Hebrew why.
I have done the work. Now it is your turn. I beg you to do it well or not at all.
Shlama w'burkate
Andrew Gabriel Roth
Y'shua wasn't talking to himself when he prayed to Father YHWH. It was as you say, his human nature/will talking to the divine nature/will. I do not have a scizoophrenic Messiah, and also I really don't like the way you just anwered me and I will tell you why.
I just said, I don't use English terms. Don't throw those things my way. Please read my post fully and consult the more detailed presentation I gave if that post was not sufficient. I believe in the one-ness of YHWH because that is Scriptural and the full humanity and divinity (not 50% each, 100% each) of Messiah is also Scriptural. Engage me there if that is at issue. But my belief cannot be reduced to a cute label. I have given throug Scripture my definition and Easterners use definitions and metaphors to explain this stuff--NOT one word terms.
If you have questions or issues on the SCRIPTURE I gave either here or on the website, just tell me. If it is a linguistic issue not apparent in normal translations you may be comfortable with, I will try to explain. But I will not allow you to dismiss the breadth of what I said in such a casual and dare I say it, lazy manner. I have NO PATIENCE (which is why I do not do first contact) for simply being told that Christian tradition or a pastor or church by laws prove me wrong without Scripture to back those up. If I am wrong it is by Sola Scriptura, but you have to show me from Aramaic or Hebrew why.
I have done the work. Now it is your turn. I beg you to do it well or not at all.
Shlama w'burkate
Andrew Gabriel Roth