11-28-2008, 08:39 PM
Actually the word "DURING' or "BEFORE" make a lot of difference.
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Ethridge Luke 2:1 NOW it was in those days that there went forth a mandate from Augustus Caesar to enrol the people of his dominion.
Murdock Luke 2:1 And in those days it occurred, that a decree went forth from Augustus Caesar, that all the people of his dominion should be enrolled.
KJV Luke 2:1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
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Luke 2:2 This enrolment was first made under the government of Qurinos in Suria.
Luke 2:2 And this enrollment was first made under the presidency of Quirinus in Syria.
Luke 2:2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
The correct reading should be Luke 2:2 And this enrollment was first made BEFORE the presidency of Quirinus in Syria. Quirinius was appointed governor of Syria, after the banishment of Herod Archelaus in AD 6, which had, as consequence, that Iudaea Province (the conglomeration of Samaria, Judea proper, and Idumea) came under direct Roman administration.[1] An account of the census was given by the first century historian Josephus,[2] who associated it with the beginning of a movement that he called the Zealots.
That would make the birth of Jesus around 7AD which is too late for about 30 years old when he started his ministry. Jesus was baptised around 27AD would make him only 20 years old. If he was born in 3BC, then it is about 30 years old by 27AD.
Luk 3:1 And in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, in the presidency of Pontius Pilate in Judaea, while Herod was Tetrarch in Galilee, and Philip his brother Tetrarch in Ituraea and in the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias Tetrarch of Abilene,
Luk 3:2 in the high priesthood of Annas and of Caiaphas; the word of God was upon John the son of Zachariah, in the wilderness.
I checked with the Aramaic Peshitta and there is no mention of "during" or before". Literally " this enrollment was first made earlier than the enrollment conducted by Quirinius in Syria". Any objections?
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Ethridge Luke 2:1 NOW it was in those days that there went forth a mandate from Augustus Caesar to enrol the people of his dominion.
Murdock Luke 2:1 And in those days it occurred, that a decree went forth from Augustus Caesar, that all the people of his dominion should be enrolled.
KJV Luke 2:1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
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Luke 2:2 This enrolment was first made under the government of Qurinos in Suria.
Luke 2:2 And this enrollment was first made under the presidency of Quirinus in Syria.
Luke 2:2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
The correct reading should be Luke 2:2 And this enrollment was first made BEFORE the presidency of Quirinus in Syria. Quirinius was appointed governor of Syria, after the banishment of Herod Archelaus in AD 6, which had, as consequence, that Iudaea Province (the conglomeration of Samaria, Judea proper, and Idumea) came under direct Roman administration.[1] An account of the census was given by the first century historian Josephus,[2] who associated it with the beginning of a movement that he called the Zealots.
That would make the birth of Jesus around 7AD which is too late for about 30 years old when he started his ministry. Jesus was baptised around 27AD would make him only 20 years old. If he was born in 3BC, then it is about 30 years old by 27AD.
Luk 3:1 And in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, in the presidency of Pontius Pilate in Judaea, while Herod was Tetrarch in Galilee, and Philip his brother Tetrarch in Ituraea and in the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias Tetrarch of Abilene,
Luk 3:2 in the high priesthood of Annas and of Caiaphas; the word of God was upon John the son of Zachariah, in the wilderness.
I checked with the Aramaic Peshitta and there is no mention of "during" or before". Literally " this enrollment was first made earlier than the enrollment conducted by Quirinius in Syria". Any objections?