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Acts 2:24 Redux
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Quote:Nice attempt, though, to change subject just because you couldn't come up with an answer

We never changed subject.

The greek NT makes no bones about it, the OT quotes in the NT are from the LXX, which is a copy from a Hebrew text. It is well documented. With the greek NT following the LXX, it is not wrong in that regards, so yes, legitimately, the current greek translation of Acts 2:24 is correct, in that sense.

Here's an english translation of Psalms 18:5 from the LXX:

5 (LXXE) (17:5) The pangs of hell came round about me: the snares of death prevented me.

Here is a translation of the peshitta OT section of the same book, look how it follows the greek wording:

5 (LAMSA) The travail of Sheol has taken hold of me: the snares of death preceded me.


According to you, since it doesn't follow the Hebrew text or any of the known translations of the Hebrew text, it supposedly follows this mysterious or unknown text, or combination of texts that no one knows about or has discovered?!?

Hmmm, quite suspect.

Your also saying that the section of Acts 2:24 in the syriac text follows the Hebrew text so the syriac NT must be original and the greek was a copy of it, yet the whole of the syriac text does not follow the Hebrew OT text of any known translation?!?

Quite an assumption here, to say the least. Would people on here begin to think that this claim is presented to protect certain interests? I would think so.

One has to wonder just how the syriac NT text got this particular section correct here yet it shares no affinity with the Hebrew, Samaritan, or the LXX texts, at least according to Paul.

Since you claim that this syriac text follows a mixed batch of undescribed impure texts, and even stated that at times it adhered to the paraphrased aramaic targums, there is no other way for anyone of sound mind to view it except as an anomoly, with the hand of revision is peaking right at us.

The Hebrew text we have is from the original, everyone is aware of it, yet the syriac NT text does not follow it.

I'm sorry Paul, you can't claim originality in one small section while denying the whole of the text has any affinity with anything original, that's deceptive and confusing.

While the section of the syriac in Acts 2:24 does clear up the greek word, again the greek follows the LXX, but the LXX is wrong in comparison with the current Hebrew text. This would be a fact.

This particular section of the syriac NT can be deduced as simply a revision to bring it in line with the Hebrew text and correct the mistakes the greek had in this section. There is no other neutral way to view this text and remain unbiased to the masses, with it's currect lack of undocumented history.
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Acts 2:24 Redux - by Paul Younan - 02-09-2005, 09:17 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-10-2005, 04:19 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-10-2005, 06:48 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-10-2005, 02:08 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-10-2005, 02:48 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-10-2005, 03:06 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-10-2005, 03:16 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-10-2005, 03:24 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-10-2005, 04:11 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-10-2005, 04:53 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-10-2005, 05:05 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-10-2005, 05:07 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-10-2005, 05:14 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-10-2005, 05:26 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-11-2005, 12:03 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-11-2005, 02:59 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-11-2005, 01:05 PM
[No subject] - by ograabe - 02-11-2005, 04:15 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-11-2005, 04:33 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-11-2005, 04:53 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-11-2005, 04:58 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-11-2005, 06:23 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-11-2005, 07:28 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-11-2005, 07:31 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-11-2005, 07:36 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-11-2005, 07:38 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-11-2005, 07:57 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-11-2005, 08:52 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-12-2005, 04:13 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-12-2005, 04:29 AM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-12-2005, 07:35 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-12-2005, 03:11 PM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-12-2005, 06:13 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-12-2005, 06:47 PM
[No subject] - by peshitta_enthusiast - 02-12-2005, 11:33 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-13-2005, 07:00 AM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 02-13-2005, 08:16 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-13-2005, 09:17 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-13-2005, 09:56 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-13-2005, 10:44 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-14-2005, 01:11 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-14-2005, 02:22 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-14-2005, 03:25 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-14-2005, 04:08 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-14-2005, 04:11 AM
[No subject] - by Keith - 02-14-2005, 04:41 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-14-2005, 09:31 AM
Dave's martyr complex ? - by gbausc - 02-14-2005, 05:42 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-14-2005, 06:48 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 02-14-2005, 07:16 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-15-2005, 01:36 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-15-2005, 02:21 AM
[No subject] - by peshitta_enthusiast - 02-15-2005, 06:38 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-15-2005, 03:50 PM

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