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Romans 1:17 query
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Quote:Dave,

Honestly you have no clue what you are talking about. This discussion is going nowhere quickly. Before you have the credentials to suggest how things should be translated, never mind the accusations you level, you need to educate yourself more (or, at least a little) on Aramaic, as right now you are likened to a pre-school child yelping at a Professor of English at Cambridge.


Heh,

Paul I'm becoming quite desensitized to the "let's through theory up in his face" situation, simply because I am learning now. And if you were a professor that would be a different situation altogether, wouldn't it?

I could throw mechanical engineering all over you that would make your freakin head swim buddy, but I don't do that to you or anyone else because it is rude.

Besides, I'm not letting you off the hook that easy Pal.


Quote:The reason why you don't translate Romans 8:16 as "She Spirit" instead of "That Spirit" is because the Aramaic word isn't being used there as "She". Not to mention the fact that it makes no sense in English whatsoever.

This area is not the problem Paul, but let's explore it, shall we?

What we have here is a simplistic situation, one book disagrees with another. The whole jist of this is not completely on Romans 8:16, that is easy to fix. In fact, shoot, let's use your worded translation Paul. Ready? Here we go:

And That Spirit, She gives testimony,...

Or this:

And She, That Spirit, gives testimony,..

Or even like they do in Hebrew interlinears:

And That Spirit(She) gives testimony,..


It's quite easy in English to render the gender as it should be, when someone actually does. This is not the problem though.

The problem is back in Acts 1:4;

"..He commanded them that from Jerusalem they should not depart but (that) they should wait for the promise of The Father, He whom ye have heard about from me."

This is the problem. It changes the gender of The Holy Spirit to Masculine when it shouldn't. This is your translation Paul, and I know it is exact, thus it points to a problem in the text, not you.
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Romans 1:17 query - by son_of_lite - 01-23-2005, 04:45 AM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 01-25-2005, 05:34 AM
Righteousness or Justice ? - by gbausc - 01-26-2005, 08:06 PM
[No subject] - by son_of_lite - 01-27-2005, 12:47 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 01-28-2005, 04:46 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 01-28-2005, 06:03 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 01-29-2005, 05:21 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 01-29-2005, 06:25 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 01-31-2005, 01:49 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 01-31-2005, 07:55 PM
[No subject] - by ograabe - 02-01-2005, 02:36 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 02-01-2005, 01:51 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-02-2005, 01:11 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-02-2005, 02:28 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-02-2005, 03:11 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-02-2005, 03:33 PM
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[No subject] - by Dave - 02-03-2005, 06:57 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-03-2005, 04:14 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-03-2005, 05:05 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 02-03-2005, 07:29 PM
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[No subject] - by Dave - 02-04-2005, 10:04 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-04-2005, 04:08 PM
[No subject] - by ograabe - 02-04-2005, 07:25 PM
[No subject] - by peshitta_enthusiast - 02-05-2005, 03:22 AM
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[No subject] - by Dave - 02-05-2005, 11:42 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-05-2005, 05:48 PM
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[No subject] - by peshitta_enthusiast - 02-05-2005, 11:13 PM
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[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 02-06-2005, 01:39 PM
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