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Romans 1:17 query
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Quote:In Acts 1:4, there is no noun counterpart. The word "haw" is not followed by the word "spirit" - had it been, it would be an error in grammar to use the masculine "haw." That's why it's translated "He."

The problem is the object described in the text, The Holy Spirit. The text directly describes The Spirit as a He when we have a known gender from the OT as She. On top of that, the book of Romans describes The Spirit as a She. So we have 2 different books attributing 2 different genders, which is grammatically and doctrinally wrong, there is no escaping that. By trying to hide this fact in the english neutral gender is deceptive.

Quote:In Romans 8:16, there is a noun counterpart. The word "hay" is pointing directly to, and followed by, the word "spirit." That's why it's translated "that."

On the one hand you tell me that the text describes The Spirit as female, with the proper noun counterpart, but you want to attribute a neutral gender in english instead of properly translating it into the correct gender???

Why attribute a neutral when there is none in Hebrew and Aramaic?

Quote:Can Romans 8:16 be translated "She Spirit?" Literally it can, sure - but would that make any sense to you in English? Doesn't "That Spirit" work much better for you?

Not when we are talking text clarity and doctrinal issues, and relationship to the OT. Such a distinction within the Godhead clears up false doctrines, such as the oneness doctrine, and it's advocates who refuse to accept the distinction.
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Romans 1:17 query - by son_of_lite - 01-23-2005, 04:45 AM
[No subject] - by Dan Gan - 01-25-2005, 05:34 AM
Righteousness or Justice ? - by gbausc - 01-26-2005, 08:06 PM
[No subject] - by son_of_lite - 01-27-2005, 12:47 AM
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