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Hey
Just wondering about the Aramaic word BAR. Please can someone confirm the following for me to assist my study:
This word can mean both SON or CHILD, and also TO CREATE or CREATOR, am I right?
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Shlama Gentile,
The Emphatic Noun "Bra" [font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]0rb[/font] (from the lexical root "Bar" [font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]rb[/font]) means "son."
The Verb "Bra" [font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]0rb[/font] means "to create."
It's only a coincidence that the Emphatic form of [font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]rb[/font] happens to be spelled the same way as the Verb.
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Shlama Akhay,
Maybe there is more to it than just a coincidence?
Isn???t it wild that both words for "son" (Bar and Ben) share very similar sounding verbs that have the ideas of creating and building respectfully?
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It is very interesting the inter-relationship of the roots...perhaps it goes back to some proto-Semitic word imagery?
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Hi Akh,
Maybe the idea of a son being the creation and the building of ones progeny?
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Reason I ask is concerning use of Bar Nasha by Isho when it comes to saying when "Bar nasha will judge the 12 tribes of Israel" - God is the only ultimate judge, so does Isho mean Creator of Man.
Please dont just stick to the traditional meaning in this case.
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Shlama Gentile,
"Bar Nasha" usually simply means "human". The term doubles as a very specific messianic title stemming from Daniels vision in Dan 7:13.
I believe Yeshua's usage of the term "bar Nasha" is a specific claim to being Messiah. He is basically claiming to be the Bar Nasha of Daniel???s vision.
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Hey Dean.
What I really want to know is if, linguistically speaking, Bar Nasha can mean Creator of Humans. As before under my other thread I have shown in Semetic languages that the word BAR/BEN is used frequently in other senses than 'a son'. But the same spelling for BAR comes into the meaning of Creator too. I.e. breyt bar alaha etc.
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Shlama Gentile,
In order to get "creator of man" the Aramaic would have to be something like "Baraya d'anashey" [font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]046n0d 0yrb[/font]
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