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Luke 2:7 - Thirdwoe - 04-16-2015 I wanted to get some input on this verse and confirm or deny what the Aramaic says here, paying close attention to the gender specific data given there. Could a few of you give as literal a rendering in English of the verse as you can please. Thanks. Re: Luke 2:7 - distazo - 04-17-2015 "She gave birth to her firstborn son, and wrapped him in bandages and laid him in a stall, because they had no place where they could stay." So, what's the issue? <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s --> Re: Luke 2:7 - Thirdwoe - 04-18-2015 Distazo , Please check the gender specific and emphatic forms of the words in the verse. Etheridge has this reading "and she brought forth her son, the first-born..." must it be "her first-born" or is "the first-born" correct? 'bukra' is in the emphatic and masculine form. So, which way is most correct? "her first-born", "the first born" or "his first born"? Re: Luke 2:7 - distazo - 04-18-2015 I think you got a point. Luke 2:7 could be translated as she gave birth to the firstborn son... This also agrees with ... Hebrews 1: 8 (Etheridge) But again, when bringing in the First-begotten (bukra) into the world, he said, Let all the angels of Aloha worship him. Re: Luke 2:7 - gregoryfl - 04-18-2015 Personally, I would translate it in a way that incorporates both ideas, very similar to Ethridge: And she did lead down her son the firstborn... The other 5 instances of this particular spelling for firstborn all naturally lend themselves to being rendered as 'THE firstborn'. Luke 1:25 Rom 8:29 Heb 1:6 Heb 11:28 Rev 1:5 Ronen Re: Luke 2:7 - Thirdwoe - 04-18-2015 Yes, it seems more of a title here than just a generic term, as I always read it before, and thus it seems to be conveying a deeper truth rather than just stating a natural fact. She didn't just give birth to a first-born son, but, The First-Born of all creation (Colossians 1:15, same word), who is God manifested in the flesh, The Word who was begotten/brought forth from The Father before the creation of all things. Matthew (Etheridge) 1:25 "and knew her not until she had given birth to her son, the firstborn; and she called his name Jeshu." The Peshitta text continues to amaze me. |