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The Languages of Acts 2 - Burning one - 11-22-2011 Shlama, i'm firmly settled in Acts for the time being, and a thought struck me concerning the nations/peoples listed in Acts 2 who had come for the Festival of Weeks, and to whom the disciples were preaching the Good News in miraculous languages: WHAT LANGUAGES WERE BEING SPOKEN?? here's my conclusion based on just a cursory scan (anyone who cares to clarify please do so): Parthwaye? = Parthians ? spoke a Western Middle Iranian language Madaye? = Medes ? spoke a similar Iranian language to the Parthians Alanaye? = Elamites ? ancient Iranian language, distinct from others, though possibly related in some way to the Dravidian family (Kannada, Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu, etc.). Beyth-Nahreeyn = Mesopotamia ? spoke Aramaic, Assyrian/Aramaic dialects Yeehuwdaye? = Judea ? spoke Judean Aramaic dialect and Hebrew Qapuwdqaye? = Cappadocia ? spoke a very isolated dialect of Greek Pantaws = Pontus ? spoke a dialect of Greek Aseeya = Asia ? likely the Southwestern Asian languages, being Semitic, Afroasiatic, and Indo-Iranian, and some Turkic languages ? this is a rather liberal guess here Phruwgeeya = Phrygia ? spoke a language closely related to Greek Pamphuwleeya = Pamphylia ? spoke an isolated dialect of Greek Metzreyn = Egypt ? spoke Demotic Egyptian and Greek Luwee = Libya ? spoke native Tamazight (Berber languages) and Greek Rome ? spoke Latin / Greek ---- Jews & converts Qreetee = Crete ? spoke a dialect of Greek Arwaye? = Arabians ? spoke dialects of Aramaic and Pre-Classical Arabic, Thamudic, etc. what i found interesting here that falls under the primacy topic is that the MAJORITY are Greek dialects, which would appear to be a somewhat important blow against those espousing that Greek was a standardly-heard language in/around Judea. if Greek was so commonly heard and understood, why would those from the nations who were attending be amazed that these Galileans were speaking Greek + other languages? of the 15 peoples represented above: SEVEN spoke dialects of Greek THREE spoke dialects of Aramaic the remaining FIVE spoke various other languages any thoughts??? Chayim b'Moshiach, Jeremy Re: The Languages of Acts 2 - distazo - 11-22-2011 I do statistics sometimes <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s --> The numbers you give, are the absolute language variation counts. But not the number of people who attended there who spoke the language. I find this an interesting comment. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://bible.cc/acts/2-9.htm">http://bible.cc/acts/2-9.htm</a><!-- m --> Re: The Languages of Acts 2 - Paul Younan - 11-23-2011 Only one correction I can think of: Turkic was unknown at the time in Asia Minor. The various Turkic tribes were still in Central Asia/Mongolia at this time. +Shamasha Re: The Languages of Acts 2 - distazo - 11-23-2011 Hi Paul, to be exact Azerbaijan is said to be the origin country of Turkish people. Mongols invaded later Turkey, and therefore, some Turkish people have mongolian features. Re: The Languages of Acts 2 - Paul Younan - 11-23-2011 distazo Wrote:Hi Paul, Hi Distazo, That's not true at all. The Azeri people are not Turkic ethnically, only linguistically. They are a Persian people, later Turkified when the Turks ruled the area. Turks came from Central Asia originally, around Mongolia. In fact the modern Kazakh and Kyrgyz people are both ethnically and linguistically Turkic (and they are very Mongoloid in appearance) <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples</a><!-- m --> In Asia Minor in those days, the Turkish language and the Turkic people were unheard of. +Shamasha Re: The Languages of Acts 2 - distazo - 11-25-2011 Thanks for the update Paul. Re: The Languages of Acts 2 - Burning one - 11-30-2011 distazo Wrote:I do statistics sometimes <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s --> Shlama akhi, i should have been more clear -- thanks for noting! Chayim b'Moshiach, Jeremy Re: The Languages of Acts 2 - Burning one - 11-30-2011 Paul Younan Wrote:Only one correction I can think of: Turkic was unknown at the time in Asia Minor. The various Turkic tribes were still in Central Asia/Mongolia at this time. Shlama akhi, thank you for the correction. i wasn't quite sure about that one! Chayim b'Moshiach, Jeremy Re: The Languages of Acts 2 - Paul Younan - 12-01-2011 Burning one Wrote:Paul Younan Wrote:Only one correction I can think of: Turkic was unknown at the time in Asia Minor. The various Turkic tribes were still in Central Asia/Mongolia at this time. Yeah, the Turks are relatively new to the middle east. Not native to the region at all. +Shamasha |