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language of primitive church - ariveira - 05-03-2010
The primitive church speak hebraic ou aramaic ?
In the movie the Passion of Mel Gibson, the actors speak Hebrew or wire?
Tank's
Alexandre Riveira
brazil
Re: language of primitive church - Dawid - 05-05-2010
It's generally agreed that they would have spoken Aramaic. Most scholars contend that they would have spoken a Galilean dialect closer to Judean Aramaic than the Syriac of the Peshitta, but a minority hold to the Syriac theory.
There is some evidence that Jews living in Israel in that period may have also been familiar with Hebrew to a certain degree, but it wasn't widely spoken, and even when Hebrew was eventually revived it was the heavily Aramaized Mishnaic dialect, and a far cry from Biblical Hebrew.
Re: language of primitive church - ariveira - 05-05-2010
Tank's Dawid
This happens because of the captivity in Babylon?
They learned the wire there, and back to Israel entered the language?
Alexandre Riveira
brazil
Re: language of primitive church - Dawid - 05-06-2010
ariveira Wrote:Tank's DawidYes, they learned Aramaic in the Babylonian exile. It seems, though, that when they returned there was a Hebrew revival, and for a while Hebrew was spoken again, but this seems to have fallen out of favor fairly quickly, and by the first century BCE, most of the documents we have are again in Aramaic.
This happens because of the captivity in Babylon?
They learned the wire there, and back to Israel entered the language?
Alexandre Riveira
brazil
Re: language of primitive church - distazo - 05-08-2010
Dawid Wrote:ariveira Wrote:Tank's DawidYes, they learned Aramaic in the Babylonian exile. It seems, though, that when they returned there was a Hebrew revival, and for a while Hebrew was spoken again, but this seems to have fallen out of favor fairly quickly, and by the first century BCE, most of the documents we have are again in Aramaic.
This happens because of the captivity in Babylon?
They learned the wire there, and back to Israel entered the language?
Alexandre Riveira
brazil
I wonder, whether prophet Jona, who wanted to fly to Tarsis, but he went afterward to the City Nineveh of the Assyrians, what language did he speak and could he speak and did he expect to have country fellowmen in Tarsis where they could understand each other?
Why did Peter go to Babylon? Did he expect there people to whom he could talk and relate to?
I think, between those cities, people could understand each other more or less.
I believe that Aramaic in ancient times was like Arabic is today.
Re: language of primitive church - Innoire - 05-09-2010
Shlama from the Most High, Yah Allaha our Father, through His onlybegotten Son, our Lord Jeshua!
Some say that in our Lord Jesus time was spoken a neo-hebraic language, a kind of "creol" mixup: hebrew + aramaic = neo-hebrew. It is not a single case. In many "neo" languages is the same case. For example for Romanian language. Jut 60 % of the worlds is from latin, another 40 % is from another language, more that 20% is from Balcan Slavic.
Re: language of primitive church - judge - 05-09-2010
ariveira Wrote:The primitive church speak hebraic ou aramaic ?
In the movie the Passion of Mel Gibson, the actors speak Hebrew or wire?
Tank's
Alexandre Riveira
brazil
In the gospels we have Jesus speaking Aramaic rather than hebrew. In the gospels we also have indications that there was a Judean dialect and a Galilean dialect. In Pauls letters we have Paul using Aramaic rather than Hebrew.
All this seems to indicate the very earliest church would have spoken Aramaic.
Re: language of primitive church - Dawid - 05-09-2010
distazo Wrote:To a certain extent that is probably accurate, though I doubt that as many people were bilingual. Jonah may have spoken Aramaic (we know from the story of Hezekiah that Aramaic was not commonly spoken in Judah at this time, but that it was also not entirely unknown) but it may also be that he was expecting to find someone to translate for him once he got there. It is entirely possible, by Jonah's time, that he could have known Aramaic. However, I think it would be a mistake to think that this was true very long before Jonah. Aramaic use expanded with the Neo-Assyrian Empire. Before that Aramaic would have been extremely rare in Canaan.Dawid Wrote:ariveira Wrote:Tank's DawidYes, they learned Aramaic in the Babylonian exile. It seems, though, that when they returned there was a Hebrew revival, and for a while Hebrew was spoken again, but this seems to have fallen out of favor fairly quickly, and by the first century BCE, most of the documents we have are again in Aramaic.
This happens because of the captivity in Babylon?
They learned the wire there, and back to Israel entered the language?
Alexandre Riveira
brazil
I wonder, whether prophet Jona, who wanted to fly to Tarsis, but he went afterward to the City Nineveh of the Assyrians, what language did he speak and could he speak and did he expect to have country fellowmen in Tarsis where they could understand each other?
Why did Peter go to Babylon? Did he expect there people to whom he could talk and relate to?
I think, between those cities, people could understand each other more or less.
I believe that Aramaic in ancient times was like Arabic is today.