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90 members to the forum, and growing daily. We're going to have our own little Waco here pretty soon. How much does this have to do with Mel Gibson's upcoming film?

Hey - those of us who are old-timers here can brag that we were into Aramaic before it was "cool." <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) -->
Old timers? Geesh... You're making me feel too young. :-) I hope to have at least another 60 years (or at the very very least make it to my 20th).

As for the movie, I can't possibly wait! There's a lot of prep-work to be done for as soon as it hits the theaters, there's going to be a LARGE demand for information, and I don't want people getting snatched up by the likes of Neil Douglass-Klotz, that Heart-something-or-other organization that has the scans of the Kabouris, or the late Dr. Lamsa's current groupies. We're going to have to put our informatics skills to the test.

Shlomo,
-Steve-o
there are big movements in The Spirit at the moment. Major players in a move to have a constitutional amendament against gay marriage,..I mean a big mass of people against it! The movie coming out with Mel Gibson, ect.

There will be a draw for information like you said. Your site and it's honesty should be quite a resource for those hungry minds.

drmlanc

""Hey - those of us who are old-timers here can brag that we were into Aramaic before it was "cool."
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Best. Aramaic joke. Ever.

But as the Aramaic is getting too mainstream and commercial now that it's famous, I think I'll go check out the Chinese primacy camp. Their riffs are so raw and unrefined.
Dave Wrote:there are big movements in The Spirit at the moment. Major players in a move to have a constitutional amendament against gay marriage,..I mean a big mass of people against it! The movie coming out with Mel Gibson, ect.

I've been feeling it too, and so have my friends. All that needs to be done is to see how it all plays out (and pray like mad). :-)

Quote:There will be a draw for information like you said. Your site and it's honesty should be quite a resource for those hungry minds.

Thanks, akki. :-) I'm hoping to get another facet of the site up and running, too, specifrically for this hoped-for influx of interest. I've parsed the entire SEDRAIII lexicon into an XML database by root, and have devised a way of learning Aramaic vocabulary that is based on root-association. Hopefully I'll get this Aramaic "FlashDex" (as I'm calling it) up before the new year, so that people can learn the language and make their own decisions.

Shlomo,
-Steve-o
drmlanc Wrote:""Hey - those of us who are old-timers here can brag that we were into Aramaic before it was "cool."
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Best. Aramaic joke. Ever.

But as the Aramaic is getting too mainstream and commercial now that it's famous, I think I'll go check out the Chinese primacy camp. Their riffs are so raw and unrefined.

Now did he say in Mandarin: "Wo w??n n???" (I ask you?) or did he say "Wo w??n n???" (I kiss you?). Since he didn't get smacked, I'd hazard to guess the first.

I still can't figure out the tones by listening to conversation anyways, and 4 is enough. Blasted Cantonese has 7, and different vowels to boot! <!-- sTongue --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/poketoungeb.gif" alt="Tongue" title="Poke Tounge" /><!-- sTongue -->

Shlomo,
-Steve-o
I think the sites such as yours Steve, Pauls, Craigs, and others will be there for the change. There is gonna be an eye-opener, and I'm hoping it is a move away from the Greek.

I Dont know what The Almighty is doing at the moment, but man it is fun to beat on satan lol
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Paul Younan Wrote:90 members to the forum, and growing daily. We're going to have our own little Waco here pretty soon. How much does this have to do with Mel Gibson's upcoming film?

I gotta say I was absolutely amazed when I first even heard there was an Aramaic NT. I am alsoi amazed that the peshitta has not been studied at all (or hardly at all )by western scholars.
When it is finally examined and accepted as the original it wll be much more difficult for detractors to attack the intergrity of the NT.


The following quotes will lose their sting. <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->

"In AD 178 the secular writer Celsus stated in polemic against the Christians: ‘some of the believers . . . have changed the original text of the Gospels three or four times or even more, with the intention of thus being able to destroy the arguments of their critics.’ (quoted in Origen, Contra Celsum, SC 132, 2, 27). Origen does not deny the existence of such changes.” 1

 Indeed, Origen wrote, "It is an obvious fact today [third century A.D.] that there is much diversity among the manuscripts, due either to the carelessness of the scribes, or to the perverse audacity of some people in correcting the text, or again to the fact that there are those who add or delete as they please, setting themselves up as correctors." 2

 "It is therefore not possible to reconstitute with certainty the earliest text, even though there is no doubt about its having existed in written form from a very early date, without a preparatory oral stage." 3

 "In the period following AD 135, the recensions proliferated with a resultant textual diversity which reached a peak before the year 200." 4

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footnotes:

* Leon Vaganay and Christian-Bernard Amphoux, An Introduction to New Testament Criticism, 2nd ed. (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1991)
1 Ibid., 96.
2 Ibid., citing Origen, In Matthaeum 15.14, in PG 13:1293.
3 Ibid., 97.
4 Ibid., 98.


More arguments that will "lose their sting" can be found here.
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