drmlanc Wrote:I will try again for agapao/phileo and life/salvation in my holidays in a few months. Now I'm so busy, I'll concentrate on work others have done and try and make nice article out of them. We seem to me making a deal... the geniuses here will find proof, and I will pretty them up for nice articles <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->
Making them into nice article is something that is worth doing and time consuming. <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) -->
drmlanc Wrote:Learn Aramaic? I thought about it, but will I ever be good enough to find split words and read Peshitta without English translation? Is that not more something to learn while growing up as a child? Perhaps a lifelong project for me...
It doesn't take a life time, just the will to learn. Epsecially given that Aramaic is the easiest semitic language to learn, it being older than the other active semitic tongues. Syriac <=> Aramaic (Common titles for the same language).
If you go through AssyrianLanguage.com:
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You'll be able to pick up the grammar of the language and the Eastern pronounciaton, and on Beith Souryoy?? Morounoy?? under school of Edessa:
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You'll be able to learn the Western pronounciation.
The grammar for East and West is the same, and the AssyrianLanguage.com website has done a great job in presenting the Aramaic grammar.
drmlanc Wrote:As for Yeshu I must be going nuts <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/huh.gif" alt="" title="Huh" /><!-- s --> I listened to that recording around 20 times, end after Yeshu he says a or ugh or something. It sounds like "yeah sure" in a funny accent to sound like "ye-shoo-ah". And I think Yeshua is in Hebrew too, so all wins. Are you saying that it should be pronounced "ye-shoo"?
What you here after "shu" is the letter that is called [ '?? or 'ayin] the [ ' ] is what is important, when you pronounce the [ ' ] you have to forget about the [?? or the ayn]. So in the word [ y??shu' ] since the [ ' ] doesn't have a diatrical mark, then it merges to the [shine] which has an [oo] sound vowel. So what you hear is the [ ' ] without any sound after it.
Listen to the following link:
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-On the first link forget the [ayn] sound and concentrate [ ' ] part of [ 'ayn ].
-On the second link forget the [??] sound and concentrate [ ' ] part of [ '?? ].
The [ ' ] is always the hardest letter for no semitic people to prounounce at first, it takes practice. <!-- s
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