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Hello Everyone,
Which day do you think Jesus was crucified? Was it on a Wednesday or a Friday? I think it was on a Wednesday. Let me show you my reasons.

As you all know, there were 2 Sabbaths. First Sabbath was a High Sabbath and Second Sabbath was a Weekly Sabbath.

In King James Version, Luke 23:51 - 54 says "(The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of themWink he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God. This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on."

As you all know, this Sabbath was a High Sabbath. We can read this in John 19:31 " The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

So the Sabbath started on Wednesday 6 pm (Beginning of Thursday). And High Sabbath ended at Thursday 6pm (Beginning of Friday). And the women prepared spices and ointments on Friday. Luke Chapter 23:56 says "And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment." So they rested the sabbath day (Friday 6 pm to Saturday 6 pm).

Wednesday 6pm to Thursday 6pm - 1 night and 1 day
Thursday 6pm to Friday 6pm - 2 nights and 2 days
Friday 6pm to Saturday 6pm - 3 days and 3 nights

So I think Jesus resurrected at the end of Sabbath.

In John 6:38 - 40 says "For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."

I was wondering if "the last day" was referring to the last day of the week. What do you think about it, everyone?
konway87 Wrote:I was wondering if "the last day" was referring to the last day of the week. What do you think about it, everyone?

I tend to think the gospels indicate a wednesday, but I could be wrong. There has been some discussion around this here in the past and most seemed to go with Friday.

I have never even considered that Jesus might have meant the last day of the week. Interesting idea. <!-- sBig Grin --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/happy.gif" alt="Big Grin" title="Happy" /><!-- sBig Grin -->
Hello Judge,
I know St. Mark was under the impression that there was only one Sabbath. So he thought the crucifixion was on a Friday. But Saint Luke and Saint John point out that there were 2 Sabbaths. I want to point out a mistranslation that was corrected by Paul Younan through his Great Interlinear Translation of Aramaic Peshitta. This mistranslation may have been one of major reasons why Friday became the day of Crucifixion.

(From King James Version)

Luke 24:18 - 21 "One of them, named Cleopas, asked him, "Are you only a visitor to Jerusalem and do not know the things that have happened there in these days?" "What things?" he asked. "About Jesus of Nazareth," they replied. "He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people. The chief priests and our rulers handed him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him; but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place."

In King James Version, we see that "It is the "third day" since all this took place.

(From Paul Younan's Interlinear Translation)

Luke 24:18 - 21 "And one of them answered whose name was Qalyopa, and said to him, "You indeed are only a stranger from Urishlim that you do not know what has happened in it in these days. He said to them, What? They told him about Yeshua, he who was from Nasrath, a man who was a prophet and mighty he was in word and in deed before God and before all of the people. And the chief priests and elders delivered him to a judgement of death and crucified him. And we were hoping that he was about to save Israel. And behold, three days [have passed] since all these things happened."

In Paul Interlinear Translation, it says "And behold, three days have passed since all these things happened."

What do you think about it, Judge?
I read something like this once. I decided to test it myself, and I came up with a Thursday crucifixion. That way He comes into Jerusalem with fanfare on Sunday the 10th the day that the people are to choose their lamb (Exodus 12). I found that Mark was the only writer that gave any kind of day-by-day chronolgy.

I haven't really delved into the Aramaic to see if there are definite meanings for some terms like "after two days". Is that two daylight periods or two days of evening and morning?
Hello noordos,
Matthew 12:40 (NIV) - "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

So its 3 days and 3 nights.
Also the Greek Matthew indicates two sabbaths as the word is in plural. Funny detail, the Aramaic matthew is having sabbath in singular <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->

I find this guys research very convincing. He all calculated using it using nasa data, however.
Especially the two sabbath's I mean. He also calculates that Jeshua was born in -7 but that's another topic. (The weakest point would be that Tiberius Ceasar would have had a dualistic reign for some time, for which no evidence exists)
Creation Year: 4003
Jewish Year: 3787
Western Year: 27

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Quote:The Saviour died for us, Matthew 27:50.

14 Nisan 3787 (9 April 27 AD), Jesus Died at the age of 32 and 5 month 28 days. (He would have been 33 in another 7 months.) (see study)

15 Tishri 3755 + 30 years (Luke 3:23) = 3785
Birthday: 15 Tishri 3785 Jesus was 30
Passover: 14 Nisan 3785 Jesus was 30 - John 2:23
Birthday: 15 Tishri 3786 Jesus was 31
Passover: 14 Nisan 3786 Jesus was 31 - John 6:4
Birthday: 15 Tishri 3787 Jesus was 32

Finally, Jesus becomes our Passover Lamb! John 11:55

3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the Earth Matthew 12:40

On the third day He rose from the dead, I Corinthians 15:4-6.

After being seen by over 500 people after His death, and telling them that the time of coming of the Kingdom was not theirs to know, He ascended to heaven, Acts 1:6-11
Hello,
Actually, there is a big problem.

From the Gospel of Luke 3:1-2 "In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar?when Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, Herod tetrarch of Galilee, his brother Philip tetrarch of Iturea and Traconitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene?during the high priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the desert."

15th year of Tiberius Caesar was either A.D 28 or A.D 29. This is when the word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the desert.
konway87 Wrote:Hello,
Actually, there is a big problem.

I know. But not for his explanation why Jesus must have died on wednesday.
That's true what you said about wednesday.

But I don't think Jesus resurrected on Sunday. It must be at the near to the end of Saturday.

In John 6:38 - 40 says "For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."

After Yosip of Ramtha placed Jesus Christ in the tomb, we read that the sabbath was approaching.

Luke 23:54 says - And the day was setting and the sabbath was approaching (Paul Younan's Interlinear Translation).

The body of Jesus Christ was already in the tomb before the High Sabbath.
Shlama,


here's the chronology i once worked up. it fit to the best of my knowledge.
it also seems to show that He was resurrected the THIRD DAY, which means while it was still the Sabbath, before "sunday."
the week of the crucifixion, using modern names for convenience sake:

SUNDAY / Yeshu?a enters Yerushalayeem. Mark 11:1-11, spends the night, 11:11
MONDAY / Curses the tree & cleanses the Temple, spends the night Mark 11:12-19
TUESDAY / Tree is withered, is examined before priests, elders, and scribes, teaches parables, prophesies about end, Mark 11:20 - 13:37. Also, Mark 14:1 tells us that Passover and Unleavened Bread were in the NEXT TWO DAYS. The Peshitta makes this clear with BATHAR DEYN TAREYN YOWMEEYN, meaning "yet in the next two days," whereas the Greek could possibly be taken as "AFTER two days."
WEDNESDAY / perfumed according to prophecy, betrayed according to prophecy, performs Passover / His death in the afternoon, in tomb BEFORE sunset. FIRST NIGHT begins
THURSDAY / First day of Unleavened Bread, FIRST DAY in tomb, enters SECOND NIGHT in tomb
FRIDAY / SECOND DAY in tomb, enters THIRD NIGHT in tomb
SATURDAY / THIRD DAY in tomb, experiences RESURRECTION near very END of that day, before first day of week/Wave Sheaf begins.

The above works seamlessly in that Yeshu?a was the Lamb of Eloheem for Passover, and He entered the city and was declared without fault by the peoples, priests, and scribes for four days, just as the lamb was to be taken into the home and inspected for four days.

Then His crucifixion took place on Wednesday afternoon, and that night, after His death, would begin the "sign of Yonah" for a complete set of three days and three nights, except that obviously the night portion had to start FIRST, since He was in the tomb before nightfall. This necessitates that the Sabbath DAY period was the final THIRD DAY, with the THIRD NIGHT having immediately preceded it. Does that make sense? According to when He entered the tomb, the night that began the Sabbath had to have counted as the THIRD NIGHT of the sign of Yonah. This means that He arose at the ending of the Sabbath day.

I think the overwhelming evidence from Scripture shows that He did arise ON the THIRD DAY, although at a very late time, so as to actually technically be there for the majority of the period:
Matthew 16:21 / 17:23 / 20:19 / 26:61 / 27:40 / 27:64
Mark 8:31 (Peshitta does not contain "after" -- otherwise this would be the only text stating "after") / 9:31 / 10:34 / 14:58 / 15:29
Luke 9:22
John 2:19
Acts 10:40
1st Corinthians 15:4


I'm always open to clarification, though. but i found it to be stated more clearly from the Peshitta than the Greek.


Chayim b'Moshiach,
Jeremy
I totally agree with you, Burning one. It should be Wednesday. And Jesus resurrected near to the very end of the Sabbath. John Chapter 6:38 to 40 and Luke Chapter 24:18 to 21 are great evidences to support this.
I don't see anywhere where a day has to be a literal 12 hours. Remember also that there is no concept of zero yet so the day He was placed in the tomb is day 1.

thursday before sunset = day 1
thursday night = night 1
friday = day 2
friday night = night 2
saturday = day 3
saturday night = night 3

I know he wasn't raised on sunday because when the women came before dawn he was already gone. However, after dusk on saturday it was the first of the week, so whether it was 1 hour after dark or 5 it would still count as a night.
Hello,
3 days and 3 nights is specific time. I got this info from a post written long time ago in this forum.

"One of the things I discovered is that if you say "three days," it could be parts of days, but if you say "three days and three nights," it is a Hebrew idiom that means full days and full nights. My recollection is that Bullinger's book on "Figures of Speech Used in the Bible" was my resource for this." This was written by a member named Shuvah in February 3, 2009

Not only that, Luke points out this (Luke 24:18 - 21) "And one of them answered whose name was Qalyopa, and said to him, "You indeed are only a stranger from Urishlim that you do not know what has happened in it in these days. He said to them, What? They told him about Yeshua, he who was from Nasrath, a man who was a prophet and mighty he was in word and in deed before God and before all of the people. And the chief priests and elders delivered him to a judgement of death and crucified him. And we were hoping that he was about to save Israel. And behold, three days [have passed] since all these things happened."

This happened on a Sunday. "Three days (Thursday, Friday, Saturday) have passed since all these things happened."

Don't forget that 6pm to 6pm is one full day for Jews. And for Gentiles, 12 am to 12am.
This is not a new idea. It was promoted about 50 years ago by Herbert W. Armstrong and his "Worldwide Church of God". His son, Garner Ted Armstrong had a weekly radio program promoting their new prophet theology.

Otto
I know its not a new idea. Many People argued about this subject long time ago. For Example, Some people in South India argued that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday. But many others supported Good Friday. I know about this, because I grew up there.
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